From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Brand new clojure support in Emacs ;-) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 12:02:44 +0000 Message-ID: <87jzt3se57.fsf@localhost> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5uw9ivs.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttt42gna.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmy080kn.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8djcydl.fsf@gnu.org> <87350ndquw.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83350ncbns.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyzrjbd8.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83zg2vav46.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87zg2hsyrd.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87h6ontwfv.fsf@posteo.net> <87r0nlngmo.fsf@posteo.net> <2d6a9558-4a4f-47e8-9122-62c7665e5f73@app.fastmail.com> <87ledn1dyu.fsf@posteo.net> <8bf9ac13-d620-4b5c-8e03-de21c4d85506@app.fastmail.com> <83cyyz6y02.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1873"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Bozhidar Batsov , philipk@posteo.net, joaotavora@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, danny@dfreeman.email, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 06 14:02:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrEh-0000BC-AW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 14:02:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrET-0001vk-LS; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrEO-0001rI-LG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrEK-00067f-4z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EAC8240101 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 14:01:54 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1694001714; bh=OKUKdvZ9g5moMCDjN+T0dcMqgREdajLnKGx5Ke5vuaM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=qlXTYl6gSitzilJvyLuZ4YhlU/KW2V/G6RbG8geZEGGprtBPsNj7WZOiJokixdMV9 utELl6NQnYg+qTUd/sKcIOyImXHVWHqwctVJNBARyqldmdUTUPspVboovc0teHY3Xy UgWuJiqOKPiLIckaTSbbhx9+OODIFtH8ShT2Og+xGjILmbNt+IZHY2vXGQbaBVvk8z CNnQzGNcf5eWqJj4d3/yBk35y+EqcgT3lWsURVZeNYh0MVLoJXLgCLpmLVhuV6Yjuw tOq5PTVJath0iFJInWK44YI0uRw1y2NGJiP5lCpBduoQhNUFsT1eMYORquN56ehZy0 94PJ1buKW7wSQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Rggw12Wkcz9rxN; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 14:01:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83cyyz6y02.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310188 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> - there's also so overhead of keeping the GitHub repo and the code in Emacs in sync > > Ihor and others should correct me, but what overhead do you have in > mind? We already have a few packages that are basically developed > outside of Emacs and only merged with Emacs from time to time, so you > will not be the first package to go that way. Backporting upstream commits might be slightly more manual compared to applying patches specifically submitted for Org. Otherwise, no downside - you are getting code improvements from Elisp experts behind Emacs after all :) For example, AFAIR, we got conversion to lexical binding largely contributed by Emacs devs. More details in https://orgmode.org/worg/org-maintenance.html#emacs-sync -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at