From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59609: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Better advertise (Non-)GNU ELPA in emacs manual Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:47:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87jzt01ozz.fsf@gmx.de> References: <83pmd9ssp7.fsf@gnu.org> <831qf8yj2l.fsf@gnu.org> <83a5twwmaq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11049"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 59609@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 08 20:48:28 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qegWq-0002fU-7g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:47:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83a5twwmaq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2023 21:29:49 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+lkNDubC3HrxmApIhSjf6FW7B8wkmLKM4ZEJSoInY8QzR22rOwr Du3tPsC2vEIWKRIrNRCZN4KcUFxwJ+4npJid4F5Tl7T453u33xUQ1vihT1YLPlrCmeZUURU g3T0L+AD3hejUb9kqerof9Hay90eyCVRYL4Md6qZVJ+VKS/lLzpnIrVPSS6P4wzAdPFxvY9 JpwyPKmb/Th9NVZhXPGkw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:RaX3CSZn0TI=;NEFe9VZzntk83uoi5sPKKILlG5+ URBEBhSyzRUSGryTFl/Ere/OchFAVZetOzSuYFxU/izh6KJLJkVNQMNzJ8Q0EjCL+UlwStlBN AtoERTfvoJFHzrrbHxmhBGff1Tm1O8OEnFMorSiquIsLysDUYVidHLfVj8cPqAEq8Jt2CcTFQ naAAhfvhfTJSEHgzQ0JRKmnt9bq4jKCFxiC2wDbGyuGGcdQqZ0KVP66MYK/sxGHtEgK8xGgWZ eELj4al6xvKGIYA1FCB1uvHCcU9ZAfA49ykTdVl/vJLcV1s5qwKsj+pFUsFOOB4drG/6ZP6bI 1WpEg4G0HMrvICRpFLCsO9twW9o5FX4DcF1PcMb25RfR0htvfmgh7PxK9UwM2vkxFyxay7oTv fsNLHNK4U9CkM2heuh6jm+PFHN0NsjVjQVGbdprrGPrAtnzDYDwex/wA9z6M/BNyh5w93ZcmF Yp+aFcVqsOygykSvUIG9Ng0OGMsxxfUdRlztoni/Qk1t5fpJKqWvdWbmhlxfNVGCqj0qvomDM 5reHiaTFlmu6rVaA5+ffZ+QMSyDeauHcXBMaiykn9mxtF/6dCxUI4UpACW2XzVioceytkxbhK fYi9h0q0PxMUwAEDYtszbh/FnFIKUGOFLqS+kbnS+82wM3hUixSsA7VtxfAhuciymulYjpi+m b3DWg7SIyBH7zEUYl51+rtpiGeADNZlhXKNc02NRagOMr+cWAfqFPt29tTucT1MaZKfyyZ8HE Mb2WN5RRfL/qqmim9oUA5Wwlh9cD+EuQzBGOMD1iC1l+lMrpnFg16LdezkPfNFvwaoqtA6PT X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:269813 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> In practice the real deciding factor *is* the copyright assignment >> (which often ends up selecting for a kind of "philosophical agreement" >> about the primacy of ethical goals over technical ones). > > I think this is just the tip of a very large iceberg, and the FAQ > should say that explicitly. Saying that just the CA is the difference > is both very inaccurate and misrepresents the actual situation: NonGNU > ELPA is a collection of packages that someone else decided could be > useful, but we basically have nothing to do with them except hosting > them. FTR, I feel responsible for GNU ELPA packages in the sense that I would debug them if necessary. For Non-GNU ELPA packages I won't (exceptions possible). Furthermore, we offer debbugs bug tracking for GNU ELPA packages. I don't know whether we offer the same fon Non-GNU ELPA packages. Best regards, Michael.