From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 21:57:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87jzsvkvuw.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> References: <87ledwx7sh.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpfybhf.fsf@yahoo.com> <873503y66i.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6356"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Drew Adams , acm@muc.de, luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 12 21:58:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qg9Wp-0001Py-GO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 21:58:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg9WC-0000Xh-U9; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:57:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg9W9-0000XL-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg9W7-0007vw-8J; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48BB419E73A; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 21:57:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 28.2 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310525 Archived-At: On Tue 12 Sep 2023 at 04:30, Arthur Miller wrote: > Perhaps elisp would be better off to accept them and make cl-defun the > norm, instead of seing macros like define-minor-mode re-implement the > technique and some other macro possibly do something similar which > leads to more less maintanable code. cl-defmacro would not help with define-minor-mode because it cannot describe the special argument list structure in this case.