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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310686 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > It's about telling the external programs to do THING /with-editor/, > > editor because the $EDITOR environment that is used. > > Now I see how it is useful, but I suggest we change its name before > installing it in Emacs or either ELPA. If we call it > `with-EDITOR-envvar' it purpose will be much clearer. As someone who also frequently has difficulties understanding how people come up with package names, I don't see how your suggestion is clearer than the current name. -- Philip Kaludercic