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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, 66117@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#66117: 30.0.50; `find-buffer-visiting' is slow when opening large number of buffers
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:18:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzpjxm9w.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a5qftghr.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> > So for starters, we make each BVAR more expensive, i.e. make Emacs
>> > uniformly slower (because we call BVAR all over the place).
>> 
>> Yes, although I do not believe that it will have large impact in
>> practice. It is just an extra == comparison.
>
> We've seen how similar extra comparisons slow down Emacs when we
> introduced symbols-with-location.  IMO, BVAR might be even more
> expensive, since it is used much more frequently and widely.

It might. Do you know a good way to test such thing? Because I do not
think that a mere suspicion that this change might make things slower
should stop the discussion.

>> > ... And then
>> > I'm not sure I understand how buffer_overrides will get the values of
>> > those temporary bindings without having to use the same loops when we
>> > have let-binding within another one.  Also, what about threads?
>> 
>> Just as any other global state variable - via `specbind'. Entering inner
>> let will push the previous value into specpdl and recover it upon
>> exiting.
>
> And that will not require looping similar to what we have now?

No.
AFAIK, the way let-binding for dynamic scoping works is:
1. push existing variable value to specpdl
2. assign a new value
3. when leaving let scope, pop the record from specpdl and assign the
   old value

What I propose is changing the way value is assigned. Now, the assignment of
buffer-local variable that is recorded into buffer object slot involves
doing it in all the live buffers. I propose to do it in a special buffer
object instead, which is strictly faster.

>> Threads work similarly, maintaining their own local specpdl queue heads
>> that make sure that global state is recorded and rewinded as needed.
>
> I don't think I follow you here.

See `rebind_for_thread_switch' and `unbind_for_thread_switch'.
The workhorse is `specpdl_unrewind', which see.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-20  8:53 bug#66117: 30.0.50; `find-buffer-visiting' is slow when opening large number of buffers Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-22  1:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-22 11:03   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-22 12:11     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-22 12:41       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-22 12:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22 13:30           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-22 14:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-23  8:22               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-23  8:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-24 10:54                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-24 12:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-26  8:54                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-26 14:18                         ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-04 10:57                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-26 11:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-26 13:06                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-27 23:30                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-10-05 14:25                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-29  7:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 13:56                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-29 16:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-03  3:25                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-10-03  6:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-07  8:25                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-07  8:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-07  9:29                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-07 10:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-07 11:08                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-07 11:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-07 11:43                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-07 12:05                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-08  9:00                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-08  9:56                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 10:02                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-09 10:16                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 14:24                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 14:49                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-12 16:33                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 17:26                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-12 17:44                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 18:36                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-12 19:10                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-12 19:16                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-12 19:18                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-12-12 19:20                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-12 20:01                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-12 20:47                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-12 22:57                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-12 23:40                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-13  3:50                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-12 23:09                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-12 23:43                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 23:47                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-13  3:55                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-13 12:10                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 13:06                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-13 13:25                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 13:43                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-13 13:51                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 14:12                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-13 14:58                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 14:32                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-13 15:22                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 14:20                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-14 16:40                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 17:07                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 17:14                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 18:11                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 18:30                                                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-14 18:41                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 19:02                                                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-14 19:36                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-15 11:01                                                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-15 13:47                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-17  6:04                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17  6:11                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-17  8:30                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 10:31                                                                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-17 10:36                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 10:46                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 10:56                                                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-17 11:06                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:19                                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-17 12:06                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19 13:24                                                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-19 13:38                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-20 20:33                                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-21  5:56                                                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-21 13:25                                                                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-21 13:39                                                                                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-01 18:02                                                                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-01 19:39                                                                                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-01 20:39                                                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02  4:43                                                                                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02 10:52                                                                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 11:08                                                                                                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02 11:17                                                                                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 11:48                                                                                                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02 12:07                                                                                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 12:07                                                                                                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02 12:15                                                                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 12:57                                                                                                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02 13:09                                                                                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 13:28                                                                                                                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-03 14:28                                                                                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02  1:30                                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-02 11:00                                                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 11:57                                                                                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-01-02 12:11                                                                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-03  2:13                                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-02 11:08                                                                                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-02 14:08                                                                                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-17 15:17                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-17 16:02                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-17 10:52                                                                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-17 11:01                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:26                                                                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-17 12:14                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 15:24                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 18:49                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 19:49                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 20:24                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 20:57                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 21:32                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-14 23:03                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 19:15                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-14 19:56                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-15 10:19                                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-08 11:16                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-08 11:25                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-08 11:44                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-08 12:10                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-08 12:28                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-08 12:11                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-08 12:20                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-09  0:48                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-23  8:54                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-23  9:41                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 11:16                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-23 11:28                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 11:51                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-23 14:30                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30  7:39                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29  7:47                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29 13:55                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30  8:08                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30  9:50                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 10:10                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 10:39                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 11:07                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 12:51                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 13:24                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 17:11                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-22 13:02         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-22 13:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22 13:38           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-22 13:45             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-04 10:58   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-04 11:46     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-05 11:27       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-05 17:14         ` Dmitry Gutov

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