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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d9eba75a57e8b86f9b80b0d26ae08c2d; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 07:12:43 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <86ikyawv2v.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 15 Jun 2024 09:58:48 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.204; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic311-23.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320104 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Does Emacs refuse to start up on Windows 98 due to USP10.DLL? Yes. > I just checked, and my old Windows 98 did have USP10.DLL. AFAIR, > Uniscribe came with IE 5, so I think every Windows system nowadays > should have it, if it's still being used. > > If needed, we can document that Uniscribe is required for Emacs to run > on Windows 9X. I'd prefer this to complicating the code more than we > already have. Especially since Uniscribe is supported as a fallback, > and is likely to be removed at some future point. I would be really averse to this solution, because the first two downloads of this file I tried were flagged as viruses (or were distributed as installer programs so flagged), and the alternative is only small number of lines of extra code. Of course, I possess a proper copy of this file, but that fact is of no assistance to the next person.