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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326133 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 08:51:01 +0000 >> >> >> Is there a reason that we do not enable `xterm-mouse-mode' in emacs -nw >> by default? Are there issues with the implementation that prevent the >> change? > > Users might not expect that? Certain escape sequences might not > really be mouse-related? >From observing people (often accidentally) using Emacs in my computer labs, they do them to expect that. Clicking to move the point is something that people appear to do very intuitively, and the TUI menus hint toward mouse-usage as well. > I've added Jared to this discussion.