From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:16:11 +0900 Message-ID: <87is3nxugk.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1111219043.820733.143980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111264424 18587 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 20:33:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 21:33:44 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCkcg-0005KJ-7t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:32:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCktR-0000qA-5c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:49:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCksb-0000ZX-Ir for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCksS-0000W3-3u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:48:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCksR-0000V2-Vd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:48:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [203.216.5.72] (helo=smtp02.dentaku.gol.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DCkMp-0007oY-GZ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:16:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtp (Dentaku) id 1DCkMn-0008UC-4H; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:16:13 +0900 Original-Received: from yokohama2-61-203-152-175.ap.0038.net ([61.203.152.175] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1DCkMm-0008U7-EI; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:16:13 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85EFB2F68; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:16:11 +0900 (JST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:51:48 +0100") Original-Lines: 16 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS GOL X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24990 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24990 David Kastrup writes: > Transient mark mode is an abomination. It really needed to be > replaced by the implementation of temporary transient mark mode (which > also is activated by dragging the mouse) in Emacs 22. Yeesh. It's matter of taste David. [I've tried to use "temporary transient mark mode" exclusively before, and found the "double press" required to activate it quite annoying. It felt artificial and clumsy.] -Miles -- We live, as we dream -- alone....