From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:33:03 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87is3kj6lo.fsf@jurta.org> References: <01c52e9b$Blat.v2.4$7aa88440@zahav.net.il> <200503220815.RAA00893@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111497144 412 80.91.229.2 (22 Mar 2005 13:12:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ttn@glug.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 22 14:12:23 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDjB8-0008I3-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:12:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDjSQ-0004QM-L3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:30:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DDjIl-0007ZK-OM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:20:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DDjIg-0007YG-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:20:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDjEP-0005nb-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:15:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.98] (helo=MXR-5.estpak.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DDifn-000052-3M; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:39:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-35-161-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.35.161]) by MXR-5.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B95E12CA5A; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:39:13 +0200 (EET) Original-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:27:50 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34957 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34957 Miles Bader writes: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:15:35 +0900 (JST), Kenichi Handa wrote: >> What kind of flag do you mean? If you mean "national flag", >> I think it's a very bad idea. > > Why? There is a good article explaining why using country flags as symbols of languages is a bad idea: http://tech.irt.org/articles/js173/ (or http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/flags.html). > How about, if there's an appropriate locale set, putting the "in > LANGUAGE" -- except writing that phrase in LANGUAGE instead of > English. That should really help it stand out visually too > (especially with non-latin fonts). There is a list of language names in etc/HELLO (also in the `sample-text' property of the language info), so I think writing that phrase in the same language as defined by locale is a good idea. In addition to the direct link to the appropriate tutorial, it will also immediately indicate that Emacs supports the language of the user. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/