Re: wikipedia and UTF8 coding (emacs21)

[Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>]

>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

   Reiner> On Thu, Nov 03 2005, Peter Dyballa wrote:
   >> Am 03.11.2005 um 15:37 schrieb Uwe Brauer:
   >> 
   >>> Has anybody experience with wikipedia article using UTF8
   >>> coding.
   >>> 
   >> I'm not experienced with this, but I am sure that
   Reiner>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                ^^^^^^^^^

   Reiner> Convincing.  :-)


Right, logic rationale and all that 


   >> you need at least two things:
   >> 
   >> 1. fonts (in X11 or such) with these glyphs

   Reiner> ACK

   >> 2. GNU Emacs 23 from CVS

   Reiner> I'd guess that Uwe prevailingly needs Spanish and German
   Reiner> non-ASCII characters.  Those are sufficiently supported by
   Reiner> already in Emacs 21 with (add-to-list
   Reiner> 'file-coding-system-alist '("/wikipedia/" utf-8)) as
   Reiner> suggested by Stefan.  With this entry every file in
   Reiner> .../wikipedia/ is de- and encoded with UTF-8.

Honestly I don't know enough of wiki(pedia) but I am oops sure/not
sure that the coding is more general. I tried to convert the document
using iconv to iso8859-1 and it failed. I have seen in those documents
Hebrew, Cyrillic and other codings, so that might be "true" utf-8.

Uwe 

   Reiner> For example, I wrote the following in Emacs 21 and
   Reiner> everything is displayed correctly:

   Reiner>   ÄÖÜ äöü ß „Hallo Welt
   und Grüß Gott“ 
   Reiner>   éíúáó ÉÍÚÁÓ ñ¡¿ ¡Hola!
   Reiner>   “Hello world” ∑ α 

   >> GNU Emacsen 21.4 and 22 (from CVS) fail to show a particular
   >> glyph when it's not in the font or fontset used.

I check that, but brute force 
 emacs -font
 "-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-iso10646-1" -bg
 grey86 \!* & works so far, so that is fine for me, right now
   Reiner> Maybe there's something wrong in your fontset config or your system.

Could be, I will try thanks anyhow

   Reiner> My Emacs 21, correctly uses
   Reiner>
   -Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-60-ISO8859-1 for
   “ü” and 
   Reiner>
   -Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-60-ISO10646-1
   for “α”. 

PS right now I send this using xemacs no mule, hope the message does
get messed up if not, I might consider any sort of mule solution in
the future 

Uwe