From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:28:50 -0500 Message-ID: <87iruvn9c2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: <4373BDF2.90106@student.lu.se> <5B24B171-FABB-40C4-90C8-248240E4EF8B@gmail.com> <4377D807.5070402@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131942633 29157 80.91.229.2 (14 Nov 2005 04:30:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 14 05:30:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbVxw-0007eW-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 05:29:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbVxv-0002vi-Ka for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:29:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EbVxk-0002vP-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:29:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EbVxj-0002tR-37 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:29:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbVxi-0002tH-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EbVxb-00065d-Ir; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([65.92.243.185]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20051114042850.EUGM26550.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 615892FD7E; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:28:50 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <4377D807.5070402@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:19:19 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45933 Archived-At: > It is the sum of all newbie unfriendliness that counts. At least for > the newbie. If they want Notepad, they know where to find it, Stefan PS: By the way, AFAIK, keyboard shortcuts are the things displayed in menus saying how you can use the keyboard to get the same result. Key bindings are slightly different since they exist completely independently from menus. The two are related but not identical.