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From: Jason Spiro <jasonspiro4+news@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:32:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ireolpha.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86k5z46afo.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> Jason Spiro <jasonspiro4+news@gmail.com> writes:
>> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
...
>> http://stuff.mit.edu/iap/emacs/emacs-slides-1.pdf seems to be a good
>> one.  It quickly covers the basics such as how to move the cursor.
>> Then it gets to the useful stuff, such as the kill ring, isearch, etc.
...
> Is that a trick question?  How about an interactive hands-on tutorial
> running in Emacs itself?  Seems more useful for me, and we have that
> already. And it is not in a propretary format, and it does not
> require a different program for display.

The tutorial I mention covers far more than the built-in tutorial,
including major modes, regexp replace, and more.  It is attractively
presented in concise point form with useful diagrams.  Having seen it,
what do you think of it?

> And for non-interactive use, it would appear that the Emacs reference
> card covers a _lot_ more.  Maybe we should link to that in some
> manner, like offering to call
> (shell-command
>   (format (mailcap-mime-info "application/postscript")
>      (expand-file-name "refcard.ps" data-directory)))

I agree that would also be useful to link to.  However, it is not a
wide-ranging tutorial; it is a reference, useful mainly for
experienced Emacs users.  IMO, Emacs needs to ship with more graphical
and tutorial-style material.

>> If I submit a patch to implement this link, will it be accepted?
>
> Apart from the points above: what guarantee would we have that the
> link does not go away in the next 5 years?

None.  Perhaps we can get the tutorial released into the public domain
so we can ship it with Emacs?  Also, is there a way it can be
converted for viewing inside Emacs (perhaps in w3m-el if installed, or
in Emacs itself otherwise?)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-30 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-27 19:37 minor suggestions for splash screen Drew Adams
2007-01-30 10:38 ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Jason Spiro
2007-01-30 11:06   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial David Kastrup
2007-01-30 11:23     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-01-31 13:28       ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-30 11:32     ` Jason Spiro [this message]
2007-01-31  4:00       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-31  8:18         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-30 20:26   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-30 20:49     ` Jason Spiro
2008-06-30 15:56     ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-07-06 21:57       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 22:21         ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:30           ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:33             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  7:02           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 21:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04  2:47         ` Please add a Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 18:15           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04 19:05             ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 19:42             ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 20:09               ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 20:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:03                       ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:07                         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:09                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 23:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-05  4:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 20:46                 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:19                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:37                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:34                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:44                       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:25                 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 21:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:44                     ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:30                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:04                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:10                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 23:56                       ` Davis Herring
2008-11-05  0:11                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-05  0:06                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 23:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 18:23           ` Please add a Drew Adams

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