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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A few questions about desktop.el
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:54:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ir9umcta.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0706101628k1d429a66x19a43e01e563d56d@mail.gmail.com> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon\, 11 Jun 2007 01\:28\:00 +0200")

>> Overwriting the desktop of another Emacs instance is not a good thing to do.
>
> Well, that's exactly what happens without this patch.
>
>> Not writing the desktop would be acceptable if it displayed a message
>> about this failure.
>
> What is the exact use case?

Something like a message saying "Can't write the desktop because it is
locked by another Emacs instance".  Not a good solution either.

>> Another alternative is to write the desktop file with a different name.
>
> You can already do that, with or without the patch. The patch offers
> you the alternative of detecting the conflict when you run the second
> Emacs instance, so you chose not to load the desktop, and then
> manually set another name for it or create it in another directory.

But this requires complicate configuration on the user's part.

>> All on all, we could leave this to the user's discretion.  The user
>> should be careful about not creating a configuration where two Emacs
>> instances automatically write to the same file.
>
> I'm not sure what this means: are you proposing not installing the
> patch? Because the point (to me anyway) is not having a configuration
> where two instances write to the same file, but detecting the case
> when that happens by accident.

No, I propose installing this patch.  I had only doubts how it would
behave with my configuration.  But with the functions Davis implemented
in his patch, it is easy to write a configuration which won't fail, e.g.:

    (unless (desktop-owner)
      (run-at-time 3600 3600 'desktop-save "~"))

that starts automatic saving only when the desktop is not locked in
another Emacs session.

> The patch is very useful and works quite well (though I've added it an
> option to configure whether the second instance should automatically
> overwrite a conflicting desktop file, automatically skip loading it,
> or ask the user, instead of always asking as Davis' original patch
> does).

Such an option would be useful.

> I propose installing it and seeing what other people thinks of it.

I agree.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-11 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-22  2:42 A few questions about desktop.el Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 10:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 22:52   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-26  8:56     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 14:03       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-27 14:28         ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28  3:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-28  7:34             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-28 12:51               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-29  0:11               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-28  3:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29  0:37             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28  4:24           ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-04-27 23:05           ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-28 14:56             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-29  4:57               ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-30  1:16                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 15:06                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-05-02 15:14                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 15:42                       ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-05-02 17:57                         ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-28 15:44             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-29  5:02               ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-04-30  3:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-03 12:48               ` Juri Linkov
2006-05-03 14:37                 ` Lars Hansen
2006-05-03 20:43                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-04 16:27                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-05-05  6:44                     ` Lars Hansen
2007-06-05  9:24                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-08 21:17                       ` Davis Herring
2007-06-08 21:29                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-08 22:05                           ` Davis Herring
2007-06-08 22:14                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-09  0:51                           ` Davis Herring
2007-06-09 21:31                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-10 23:28                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-11 20:54                                 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2007-06-12 11:21                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-04 16:17                 ` Stuart D. Herring
2005-08-08 15:02   ` Lars Hansen
2005-07-22 13:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 14:36   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-26  8:27     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-08 15:04     ` Lars Hansen
2005-07-22 19:11 ` Lars Hansen
2005-07-22 21:24   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 22:50 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-26  9:11   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-27 14:04     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-27 14:16       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28  3:20         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29  0:44           ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10  9:50         ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-10 11:24           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-02-09 16:30             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-02-09 20:00               ` Lars Hansen
2006-02-09 21:11               ` Lars Hansen
2006-02-09 23:46                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-10 22:05           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-10 23:45             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  1:12               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  1:36                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  3:01                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-11  6:12                   ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-08 14:51 ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-08 18:35   ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-09  7:12     ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-09  7:36       ` Lars Hansen
2005-08-09  8:49       ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-09  9:31         ` David Kastrup
2005-08-09  9:59           ` Juanma Barranquero

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