From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:35:09 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ir7dlrhe.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87odhqethv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zm18v7ug.fsf@jurta.org> <85abt7kck1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcndc3zc.fsf@jurta.org> <87643pbqjq.fsf@jurta.org> <85643ppor9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sl6sbjaw.fsf@jurta.org> <87fy2oms2y.fsf@jurta.org> <85sl6o3rj1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <873aykml2v.fsf@jurta.org> <87bqd744yp.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187390437 1493 80.91.229.12 (17 Aug 2007 22:40:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 18 00:40:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IMAUW-00038N-Tb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:40:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IMAUW-0006ME-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IMATl-0004zE-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IMATj-0004v8-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:39:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IMATj-0004uf-J1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IMATh-0007pq-3c; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:39:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IMATb-000839-39; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:39:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 17 Aug 2007 00\:50\:17 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 5bcd58edb95cdacf596e852bfe0375ec X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1390 [August 17 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76710 Archived-At: > The automatic text cycling is too annoying in all regards: even if the > user doesn't finish reading one screen, it jumps to another. > > It will come back to the first screen, and most of the two screens are > identical. > > This isn't perfect, but I don't know of a better option. The startup screen already contains information from two screens combined into one screen. We could do the same for the About screen. Is the only reason for flashing screens to make them more attractive? > I think > we should replace this with tabs where clicking on them switches to > another screen. > > No way! Hardly anyone will see the second screen > if you have to explicitly ask for it. > > I would be glad to find a better way, but I don't want to change > to something worse. If we really need second screen, we could place less important information to the second screen, and add guidelines on the first screen how to see the second screen. Then there are more chances that users don't miss important information. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/