From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:21:57 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ir7bnm97.fsf@jurta.org> References: <85abt7kck1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcndc3zc.fsf@jurta.org> <87643pbqjq.fsf@jurta.org> <85643ppor9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sl6sbjaw.fsf@jurta.org> <87fy2oms2y.fsf@jurta.org> <85sl6o3rj1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <873aykml2v.fsf@jurta.org> <87bqd744yp.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzqv1sui.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187566221 17201 80.91.229.12 (19 Aug 2007 23:30:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 20 01:30:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IMuDl-0007qZ-LU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:30:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IMuDm-0001Wa-ET for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:30:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IMuBV-0008WL-9c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:27:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IMuBT-0008VP-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IMuBT-0008VK-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IMuBO-0003gs-MN; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:27:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IMuBM-000Cb2-OT; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:27:45 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 19 Aug 2007 18\:30\:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 5389b9e13478507b5d7b23e4ed053241 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1390 [August 17 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76789 Archived-At: > In this case, > we could remove the link to http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/ from > the startup screen, because the first link on the Emacs home page is the > link to Emacs Guided Tour, > > If we need to get rid of something, maybe that has to be it. > > But perhaps it is better to go back to the two alternating screens. Two alternating screens still exist on the About page (accessible from the "Help->About Emacs" menu item). Perhaps we should put different information on the Startup page and on the About page. The former should be concise and contain the most necessary information while the latter should contain more additional information displayed on several screens. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/