From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Minibuffer default values list Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:02:02 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ir3u9r5s.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87zlycuhrd.fsf@jurta.org> <87hckbecc0.fsf@jurta.org> <87prygxtot.fsf@jurta.org> <87hcjjkrgy.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195758818 14459 80.91.229.12 (22 Nov 2007 19:13:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 22 20:13:44 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IvHUa-0001ER-OS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:13:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvHUM-0005Hq-Dy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IvHTl-00051T-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:12:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IvHTk-00050Z-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:12:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvHTj-00050T-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:12:47 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IvHTf-00034o-Cb; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:12:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IvHTa-000ANb-4Y; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:12:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:28:01 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1823 [Nov 22 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:83883 Archived-At: > Below is a first implementation that has one drawback: it uses a new > function dired-read-shell-command-default from dired. I think this > function should be generalized and moved to simple.el. > > I don't like the idea that all use of M-! will load mailcap.el. In Dired ! already loads mailcap.el, and it seems this is not a bad thing. If you don't want loading mailcap.el on M-! then what do you think about loading mailcap.el only when the user types M-n in the shell command's minibuffer? This is possible to implement by creating a new minibuffer variable e.g. `minibuffer-lazy-default'. When this variable is non-nil, then minibuffer functions will load mailcap.el and set the value of `minibuffer-default' to the list of commands after the user types M-n. > In addition, it is unmodular since mailcap.el is a part of Gnus. mailcap.el is located in the gnus directory, but it doesn't depend on Gnus. It doesn't load Gnus-specific files. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/