From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: adamsonj@email.unc.edu (Joel J. Adamson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Binding C-a to select all Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:58:40 -0400 Message-ID: <87iqvwnbq7.fsf@edna.homeunix.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214449420 6002 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2008 03:03:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 26 05:04:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KBhmY-0005SD-Ds for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:04:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38100 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBhli-0008Cz-UP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:03:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBhlP-0008Cg-1T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBhlL-0008CI-HG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:03:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41722 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBhlL-0008C8-Bt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpsrv1.isis.unc.edu ([152.2.1.140]:35262 helo=smtp.unc.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KBhlK-0005Jc-Ob for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from edna (cpe-071-065-251-081.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.251.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unc.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5Q32XlW009871; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:02:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Xah's message of "Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:34:00 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55086 Archived-At: Xah writes: > On Jun 25, 11:36 am, adams...@email.unc.edu (Joel J. Adamson) wrote: >> Davin Pearson writes: >> > I am using Emacs to teach computer programming to computer novices >> >> They'll continue being novices unless forced out of their comfort >> zones. >> >> What I mean is that if you get them to learn the Emacs way, suddenly >> they'll be advanced computer users ;) >> >> > and therefore I need to modify Emacs to make it more like a standard >> > Windows application. >> >> I disagree that you need to: at least some of the people in your class >> will find Emacs keybindings (and the rest of the interface) more >> comfortable and logical, and they'll see why they've been so frustrated >> with "standard Windows" applications. > > Emacs keybindings actually has very little technical merit. Your objections to Emacs keybindings have very little technical merit. See http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_kb_shortcuts_pain.html http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html Joel -- Joel J. Adamson (303) 880-3109 Public key: http://pgp.mit.edu http://www.unc.edu/~adamsonj http://trashbird1240.blogspot.com