From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:11 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87iqvdo6tw.fsf@jurta.org> References: <86lk19mmua.fsf@lifelogs.com> <485298A4.30000@gnu.org> <867ict8awn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zlouswvk.fsf@jurta.org> <86skulfo7j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fxql8j7y.fsf@jurta.org> <86y74ccrp4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87od583s2a.fsf@jurta.org> <86wsjv6o6i.fsf@lifelogs.com> <868wwa7v1k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87prpmc011.fsf@jurta.org> <863ami4seu.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fxqi62ee.fsf@jurta.org> <86lk093nz1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87abgpshlx.fsf@jurta.org> <86wsjtzhas.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215719886 19884 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2008 19:58:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 10 21:58:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KH2Hr-000127-UW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:58:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KH2H0-0000x0-JJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:57:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KH2Gp-0000tO-1Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:57:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KH2Gm-0000sM-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:57:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39179 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KH2Gm-0000s9-In for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from anti-4.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.202]:60811) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KH2Gl-0001zH-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by anti-4.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KH2Gj-000PDO-KR; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:57:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <86wsjtzhas.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:10:35 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 7b1a4900bea4ee3727a65c989d5962bc X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4278 [July 10 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100546 Archived-At: > I figured out how to do it (with a vector, e.g. ["full string"] is the > mapping). > > All the changes we've discussed are now in cyrillic-translit. Thanks! I have a few comments: 1. Could you also add rules to input vowels with the combining acute accent like you did for the combining grave accent, i.e. could you add ("a'" ["а́"]) and other vowels with the primary stress? 2. There are now two conflicting rules: ("E`" ["Ѐ"]) and ("E`" ?Э). 3. I just realized that we could leave the rule ("'" ?ь), because it has no conflict with ("a'" ["а́"]). The letter `ь' is never used after a vowel. 4. Please swap the mappings between ("/``" ?”) and ("/''" ?“), and also between ("/'" ?‘) and ("/`" ?’), because usually backquotes are used for left quotation marks, and apostrophes are used for right quotation marks. 5. Something is wrong with encoding of small roman numeral 1-10. Maybe we should recode cyrillic.el from iso-2022-7bit to utf-8 to avoid these problems? > When Handa-san commits his multiple input method support, I'll split > rules into multiple methods as we discussed. I tried the patch that Handa-san submitted in 2007, and it works well (with only one change of removing unnecessary `nreverse'). So I think we should now design a good UI to use multiple input method support. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/