From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:49:02 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87iq8tice9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sk7z571u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <81674B067AF84670A2EDDB0178E0C0CC@us.oracle.com> <877hpa68ys.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <874oke4kor.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pr32pd9j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <0726390D71674C4EB1561AF2D9527D66@us.oracle.com> <87ocilfl02.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878w9p9y8t.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268945904 22044 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 20:58:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David Kastrup' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Stefan Monnier' , Drew Adams , Miles Bader To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 21:58:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsMnJ-0007gs-As for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:58:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49109 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsMnI-00032K-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsMmD-0001qL-I9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41183 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsMmB-0001mB-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsMm9-0006XV-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:39125 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsMm6-0006WP-O1; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:57:02 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.94.132.cable.starman.ee [82.131.94.132]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774E23F40D2; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:56:54 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: <878w9p9y8t.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:21:54 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122214 Archived-At: > More importantly, it's consistent with the existing semantics of > transient mark mode. Many Emacs commands act on the region when it's > active, and it seems natural for DEL to be one of these commands. > > By contrast, it's not clear to me that self-inserting characters ought > to "act on the region" in the sense of replacing its contents. As I understand from counter-arguments, opponents agree with self-inserting characters replacing the region, but only when the region is activated explicitly, and not by side-effects of setting the mark or exchanging the mark and point. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/