From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276266001 24342 80.91.229.12 (11 Jun 2010 14:20:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 11 16:19:55 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON55P-0007hE-EK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:19:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33605 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ON4ym-00049Q-1A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:13:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36763 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ON4yW-00045W-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON4yP-0002un-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.78]:34728) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON4yP-0002ud-0o; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:12:41 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5BECdgJ017474 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:12:40 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC34516D427; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:39:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125738 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I made the left/right arrows and their Ctrl-modified siblings move to > the left resp. right, regardless of the logical buffer order, because > this is what users of bidirectional scripts expect -- they are used to > it in every other bidi-aware application out there. In other bidi-aware applications, what keys are used to move in logical order (i.e. what C-f and C-b do now in the trunk)? (I am still dubious about decoupling the arrow keys and C-f/C-b keybindings. Maybe we should provide a separate set of keybindings instead.)