From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: more on anything.el inclusion Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:43:02 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87iq4z2lwp.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87r5jn8txt.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <20100701.113319.279407721.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278002617 18801 80.91.229.12 (1 Jul 2010 16:43:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 16:43:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 01 18:43:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUMrP-0007H6-6p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:43:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57151 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUMrO-00026d-KW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:43:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49210 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUMrC-0001zp-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:43:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUMr7-0004JZ-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:39525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUMr6-0004JO-TI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:43:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUMr3-00076Y-P7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:43:13 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:43:13 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:43:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+jqaIgGR+oc2Wj4EIIhl4jxLESs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126636 Archived-At: On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: HH> + Dan Nicolaescu : >> You might want to step back, and think about how to present this to >> someone that has not idea what anything.el is, and what it can do. >> (I still don't know after a few emails...) HH> I can't help explain anything (*), but it has been compared to HH> quicksilver on the Mac, which I do use. It's similar to Gnome Do as well (or you can say Do is like QuickSilver), for those who don't have a Mac. HH> And the problem with explaining that is that it is (in some ways) so HH> totally different from traditional computer interfaces that it's HH> almost impossible to describe it meaningfully. You just have to see HH> it in action. That doesn't mean you cannot and should not try, but HH> it explains why the explanations this far fall short. We've had interactive completion in Emacs for a while and it actually does a lot of cool things like anything.el. Icicles also addresses similar needs, although I personally did not like it. So I don't think it's necessarily a radical interface you'd have trouble explaining to the Emacs crowd :) Ted