From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:38:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87iq4f8gyh.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87mxtr8i6l.fsf@telefonica.net> <201007161927.31648.tassilo@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279301956 23090 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 17:39:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:39:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 19:39:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZosR-0001co-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:39:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35256 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZosR-000131-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33170 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZosK-00012E-FD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZosJ-0000Tr-4g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:57877) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZosI-0000Tk-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZosD-0001Tq-NG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:38:57 +0200 Original-Received: from 83.42.13.171 ([83.42.13.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:38:57 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 83.42.13.171 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:38:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.42.13.171 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8ALRjE3Y4lERC6I+3nYGEMtVNWA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127447 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > On Friday 16 July 2010 19:12:18 Óscar Fuentes wrote: > >> If there is something in Emacs that is not sensible nor logical, >> that's the keybindings. Not only they are different from the current >> established ones, they often seem planned with the clear intention of >> causing RSI :-) > > This heavily depends on your keyboard layout. Yes, I'm using a very expensive keyboard just because it has a great ergonomics for working with Emacs. [snip] > Similarly, C-k, C-y and M-y have clear mnemonics derived from the > concepts of killing and yanking. Worrying about mnemonics for operations you do hundreds of times per day is a waste.