From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:22:33 -0400 Message-ID: <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281306174 17908 80.91.229.12 (8 Aug 2010 22:22:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 22:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 00:22:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiEGb-0002nT-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 00:22:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57316 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiEGZ-0007wF-HK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:22:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41413 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiEGP-0007uz-A7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiEGN-0007fc-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po45.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.79]:54137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiEGM-0007fW-Vt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (173-9-75-145-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.9.75.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po45.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o78MMX0T024914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8D50BC013; Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:22:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Uday S. Reddy's message of "Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:32:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128432 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy writes: >> It's not essential, but I really appreciate having Meta on the outside >> (where my little finger can press it). It's also nice in X because of >> the number of window managers that willy-nilly steal Alt for their own >> use. > > I agree. After having thought about for a day, I realize that it is a > perfectly logical thing to map Windows keys to Meta. It is wasted > keyboard real estate otherwise. No, this is too idiosyncratic to make it the default. Even for non-default usage, putting Emacs in charge of the Windows key seems unacceptable. This is the domain of the operating system. Doesn't the Windows world have some equivalent of `xmodmap'? That's the conceptually correct way to handle this.