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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Locks on the Bzr repository
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:28:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iq336og3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1On5PU-00025A-T3@fencepost.gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii writes:
 > > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
 > > Cc: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>,
 > >     emacs-devel@gnu.org
 > > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:52:44 +0900
 > > 
 > >  > If not, how do you cope with the bootstrap of a new branch,
 > >  > which takes much longer than writing a string to a file?
 > > It doesn't take very long to create a new branch in a separate
 > > workspace.  It takes the time it takes to unpack a source tarball
 > > if you do it sanely.
 > 
 > I was talking about bootstrapping, not about branch creation.

Oh, you mean "make bootstrap"?  The answer is (a) don't do it very
often (mostly use colocated branches, even for typos vs. feature
branches), (b) plan well enough that I start the "git clone x y; cd y;
make bootstrap; make check" process before starting something else
that takes 20 minutes or so, and (c) work on XEmacs, where 80% of the
Lisp is not in the main tree (most especially not calc or Gnus!) so a
bootstrap and test can be accomplished in less than 20 minutes even on
a 5-year-old iBook G4.

 > I just tried to make a local branch out of the Emacs trunk mirror.
 > It took 22 seconds on x86_64 GNU/Linux.  Probably not as fast as
 > git, but fast enough to be a non-issue.

That's much better than it used to be, and as you say a non-issue.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-22  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-19 15:40 Locks on the Bzr repository Stefan Monnier
2010-08-19 15:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-19 16:07   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-19 16:36     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-19 20:06       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-19 21:49         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20  6:22           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-20  7:40             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20  8:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20  9:13                 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20  9:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 11:35                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 12:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 12:56                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-20 13:29                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 14:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 10:15                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 11:39                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 12:42                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 12:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 12:52                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-20 13:33                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 14:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 15:31                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 13:44                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 15:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 22:41                         ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21  8:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21  9:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 10:30                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 10:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 10:47                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 17:04                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-08-22  7:39                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  3:15                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-08-21  9:38                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 10:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 10:37                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 10:56                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 12:51                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 13:02                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 15:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  7:39                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 17:10                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21  9:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 12:31                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 13:45                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 14:56                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 17:32                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-22  7:45                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 15:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 19:10                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 18:59                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 19:50                               ` Leo
2010-08-21 19:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 20:17                                   ` Leo
2010-08-21 20:31                                     ` Leo
2010-08-22  1:41                                   ` Tom Tromey
2010-08-22  1:47                                     ` Leo
2010-08-22 13:47                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-22 13:53                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-22  6:52                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  7:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  8:28                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2010-08-22  8:57                                       ` Leo
2010-08-22 15:11                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 19:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 21:51                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 22:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-22  9:03                                     ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-22  9:36                                       ` Teemu Likonen
2010-08-22  9:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 11:25                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  4:24                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  4:54                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23  7:52                                             ` Glenn Morris
2010-08-23 13:55                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24  4:32                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-24 13:30                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2010-08-24  4:32                                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  9:55                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  4:24                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  5:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23  7:58                                         ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-23 10:31                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23 12:41                                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24  6:31                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 12:37                                                 ` Lluís
2010-08-24 13:05                                                   ` Lluís
2010-08-24 13:25                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-24 14:18                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 15:25                                                       ` Lluís
2010-08-24 14:10                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 15:02                                                     ` Lluís
2010-08-24 16:59                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24 21:27                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-24 16:42                                                   ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 17:12                                                     ` Lluís
2010-08-24 18:47                                                       ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 14:05                                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 15:54                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 16:48                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:03                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-25 13:32                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-31 21:33                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-01  0:30                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-01  1:44                                                   ` Bernardo Barros
2010-09-01  2:36                                                     ` Miles Bader
2010-09-01  3:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-01  6:49                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-01 18:17                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-01 19:10                                                     ` Bastien
2010-09-02  5:22                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-02  6:31                                                         ` Bastien
2010-09-03  1:24                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-03  8:01                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-03  9:50                                                             ` Bastien
2010-09-03 13:58                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2010-08-25 20:25                                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-27 15:36                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-22  7:36                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  8:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  9:21                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  9:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 11:14                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22 11:47                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 11:13                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-22 13:13                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22 17:10                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21  2:29                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 16:08                 ` bzr smart server [was Re: Locks on the Bzr repository] Glenn Morris
2010-08-20 16:56                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-20 17:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 17:13                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-20 17:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 17:52                           ` bzr smart server David Kastrup
2010-08-20 17:12                   ` bzr smart server [was Re: Locks on the Bzr repository] Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 23:02                     ` bzr smart server Stefan Monnier
2010-08-21  8:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 13:22                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 15:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 17:09                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 17:28                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 13:46                         ` Miles Bader
2010-08-21 15:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 15:45                             ` Miles Bader
2010-08-21 15:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 17:16                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 17:28                                 ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-21 17:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 17:40                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 14:00                         ` Eric Hanchrow
2010-08-21 14:06                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-21 14:24                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 15:12                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-21 17:12                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-22 17:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-20  4:44         ` Locks on the Bzr repository Miles Bader
2010-08-20  4:52           ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-20  6:22           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-19 16:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-19 16:54     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-19 16:12 ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 16:43   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-19 16:48     ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 17:08       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-19 17:32         ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-19 17:29   ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 21:42     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-20  9:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21  9:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-19 16:26 ` Jay Belanger
2010-08-21 20:36 ` bzr send workflow (Was: Locks on the Bzr repository) Bojan Nikolic
2010-08-21 22:05   ` bzr send workflow Stefan Monnier
2010-08-21 22:48     ` Bojan Nikolic
2010-08-22  5:26     ` No ChangeLog's (was: bzr send workflow) Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  8:11       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  8:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 12:29     ` bzr send workflow Andreas Schwab
2010-08-22 13:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 14:52         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-23  4:24       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  5:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23  5:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24  4:32           ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-25 15:03     ` Andy Wingo
2010-08-25 19:18       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-26 17:11         ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-26 17:26           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-27  5:20           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-27 11:27             ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-08-22  7:56   ` bzr send workflow (Was: Locks on the Bzr repository) Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22 11:11     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-22 13:44       ` bzr send workflow Miles Bader
2010-08-22 14:40     ` Bojan Nikolic
2010-08-23  4:14       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  5:33         ` Eli Zaretskii

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