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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 'Chong Yidong' <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	'Eli Zaretskii' <eliz@gnu.org>,
	'Stefan Monnier' <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r102688: Minor clean up to silence somegcc warnings.
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:51:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ipyoqtfv.fsf@kslab.red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C7AD80FDBFD3414EAA76D0270B5252AC@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 20 Dec 2010 07:31:27 -0800")

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>And Emacs users often want to or sometimes need to understand the
>source code, and sometimes across versions.  And users who write Elisp
>code sometimes want to understand development changes within a given
>release cycle.
>
>Users deserve the source code, including its comments (which often reflect on
>implementation or design). Likewise its change logs (ditto).  Users should not
>need to access BZR or any other v-c interface to get access to the change-log
>info.  Delivering it as part of Emacs helps users.  Beyond delivering it with
>Emacs, making it available via http also helps - as in
>http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git/tree/HEAD:/lisp (or
>http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/emacs/trunk/files/head%3A/lisp/, which
>doesn't work as well).
>
>Change-log info is meta-info about the code and its behavior, just like
>comments and doc and NEWS are.  Please keep it accessible to users
>locally, as part of their Emacs installation/delivery.

If "users should not need to access BZR" to get access to change-log
info, then that is not an argument for storing the ChangeLogs in BZR.

It is an argument for generating a user-friendly web page straight from
the version control logs (thus "making it available via http") and doing
something simliar when building a tarball distribution (thus "delivering
it with Emacs").

-Karl



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-20 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1PUCaG-00051g-NC@internal.in.savannah.gnu.org>
2010-12-19 11:41 ` /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r102688: Minor clean up to silence some gcc warnings Romain Francoise
2010-12-19 13:59   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-19 15:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-20  2:53       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-20  8:03         ` Štěpán Němec
2010-12-20 14:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-20 14:19             ` Chong Yidong
2010-12-20 15:31               ` /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r102688: Minor clean up to silence somegcc warnings Drew Adams
2010-12-20 16:51                 ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2010-12-20 17:18                   ` Drew Adams
2010-12-20 18:05                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-20 18:08               ` /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r102688: Minor clean up to silence some gcc warnings Stefan Monnier

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