From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:00:04 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87ips77423.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <010001cc29eb$fc806cb0$f5814610$@cs.ua.edu> <87vcw9ksdd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hb7rlmjt.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874o3r8kpz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308135646 4100 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2011 11:00:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:00:46 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 13:00:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWnpy-0001Fx-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:00:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58395 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWnpx-0005Se-FB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:00:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47753) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWnpd-0005SG-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:00:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWnpc-000534-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:00:21 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52987) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWnpb-00052q-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:00:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWnpZ-0000yG-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from p508edfb6.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.142.223.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p508edfb6.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:00:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508edfb6.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cwO5JSZfxazfbU2s7/Ai5nz4PjA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140488 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:14, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> I think you misunderstand the goal of free software.  The whole point is >> to give people the power of choice. > > The point of free software is not a stable thing. It depends on whether you are talking about software that happens to end up as free, or software that has been conceived in the course of the free software movement as initiated by the Free Software Foundation. The whole point of freedom is that it gives room for different motivations. But that does not make it a conglomerate of the different motivations it admits. -- David Kastrup