From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with new smtpmail Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:34:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87iprfrvvw.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87wrfwrxiu.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87oc17o1ho.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87fwmjnzhi.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87mxgrs2bu.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309987764 4691 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2011 21:29:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:29:24 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 23:29:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeZel-0005VZ-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:29:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeZek-0001k5-Hl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:29:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48479) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeYo3-0003xJ-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:34:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeYnz-0004g7-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:34:47 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeYny-0004g1-VD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeYnu-00043y-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:34:38 +0200 Original-Received: from 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.59.2.92]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:34:38 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:34:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 57 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:76RM+XZEk1qETqqluoyUVu+lqBQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141688 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Óscar Fuentes writes: > >> Yes, but now it is ignored if listed on custom-set-variables even when >> smtpmail is loaded later: >> >> (custom-set-variables >> '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "foo")) >> >> (load "smtpmail") >> >> fails here (smtpmail asks for a smtp server while sending email). > > The definition of these two variables hasn't changed. It's still: > > (defvar smtpmail-default-smtp-server nil > "Specify default SMTP server. > This only has effect if you specify it before loading the smtpmail library.") > > (defcustom smtpmail-smtp-server > (or (getenv "SMTPSERVER") smtpmail-default-smtp-server) > "The name of the host running SMTP server." > :type '(choice (const nil) string) > :group 'smtpmail) > > The only change I've done is to make `smtpmail-default-smtp-server' a > defvar. > > (custom-set-variables > '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "foo")) > > on a defvar-ed variable still sets it, doesn't it? > > So I'm wondering whether you're somehow loading smtpmail.el before you > set `smtpmail-default-smtp-server'. > > Or is there something else subtle that I'm missing about going from a > defcustom to a defvar? With .emacs containing (custom-set-variables '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "foo")) starting Emacs and M-x eval-expression smtpmail-default-smtp-server Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable smtpmail-default-smtp-server) ... but (custom-set-variables '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.telefonica.net" NOW)) works. So yes, there is something about custom-set-variables and defvar/defcustom.