From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Schmidt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Abolishing ChangeLog files (was: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:55:29 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <87ip4bj1ay.fsf_-_@earth.home> References: <87y5d9p5td.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <87vc8dtbcb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871ub1gmdf.fsf@engster.org> <87d2ulovd0.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <85r4j0h1ww.fsf@member.fsf.org> <85li98h1qx.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87ehf0b3x2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87obe3gaem.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364464543 26601 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2013 09:55:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:55:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 28 10:56:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UL9Z0-0004J9-Ad for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:56:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54129 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL9Yc-00044z-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:55:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47875) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL9YV-00044L-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:55:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL9YS-00048C-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36162 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL9YS-000484-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:55:32 -0400 Original-Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 6F57E20E13; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:55:29 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1364464529; bh=AfYkVEMJAqpe2NVEXc2yMKZZslyplArAGkEgO/6cMKs=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=0YMoYah2hPj81yDOXipR76CelFnT5obCxqRN+LqRR4SBSsGFzpBwOGQmy2plf8XGj V87JOqFT7FzNDbn4z5B8W5jPVP96Vo5s3eNQfYl3532uffI9V/US6L8SCDa/Eg5kqj 50QeeXKhtcoJCp3K3SGUNAEWH2xuW9p8oPveqICk= In-Reply-To: <87obe3gaem.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:07:29 +0100") Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-Received-From: 146.185.21.93 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158346 Archived-At: David Engster writes: > The most time consuming thing is fixing ChangeLogs (we don't have any > in CEDET and generate them from commit logs). I would like to suggest another change - how about removing ChangeLog files from the development repository. I think these files are redundant to the commit log of the vc. Removing the files from the repository would clean diffs and reduce merge conflicts. Considering distributed vc, a project's history cannot be thought of as to be list of consecutive increments. Distributions of Emacs could include ChangeLog files generated from the vc commit log, of course. Do I make sense? Are there any drawbacks? Christopher