From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: don't show the $-bar that indicates text before and/or after the window view, horizontally Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:59:06 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87iozytw2t.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87ehap9mam.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kfx4sh.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <51f00beb$0$2060$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87wqof27ae.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871a4299-aefc-4982-b90f-ef3f4d3b2176@googlegroups.com> <87ppu7qdo2.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374771624 1567 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2013 17:00:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:00:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 19:00:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Ots-0006sJ-8M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:00:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42563 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Otr-00006t-VN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:00:23 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 68 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jogrcO7HJGQ73lzpAUEI1eDvkLw= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200141 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92407 Archived-At: Rustom Mody writes: > No rank or pulling. Basic education-stuff. You want to learn > calculus? Ok first need to clear algebra. Algebra? First need > arithmetic. So... Basic stuff: abc before xyz. In general - perhaps, but you shouldn't be afraid to advance as fast as possible. "Advance too fast, you catch up with death. But advance too slow, death catches up with *you*." In this particular case, "advance too fast" is nonsense because I don't need to do anything before I change the dollar sign or disable the fringe. I just need to know how to do it, and this information was provided. > Eli asked you to read some basic stuff before grappling with > more advanced stuff. Like I said, I don't consider that advanced, and besides I read every book on Emacs I have gotten hold of, plus every Emacs chapter in every general Linux book I ever saw. To assume I didn't read anything is in itself an insult, and incorrect at that. > emacs is quite a formidable piece of software -- hopefully that > you will agree with. And in dealing with that, listening to the > sequencing suggestions of insider-guys (like Eli) Again, rank is irrelevant: I'm able to asses material as it is. I don't care if you coded creation itself, if you're rude, I don't want to deal with you. > If you are serious about that (and everyone who is trying to > learn something needs to be serious at least about teaching > himself) you can take it from someone who has taught some > thousands of students I'm not going to take anything from a person who pulls rank every second sentence. > So... Its really quite easy to NOT be in the category to which > Dunning-Kruger apply: Just be ready/easy to say: "Yeah... I dont > know... How to learn???" I know how to learn. You learn by being active. How do the Cuban boxers win Gold at every Olympics? How do they master to throw punches? They throw 1000 punches a day, and then they eat and sleep. Learning is difficult to do, but not difficult to understand. > Let me end with something that we veteran The only thing you do is pull rank. > teachers always fear: The Einstein effect. One of Einstein's > school teachers told him he was an idiot and a useless who would > never make anything of his life. And so when you cross to the > other side and become a teacher, theres always the nagging fear: > Is there some idiot in my class who will become Einstein in > future? Why on Earth would you fear that? I don't know what Einstein did, but if he did good things, as I think, we could sure use more of those. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573