From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:54:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87iovo4caz.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384876275 22564 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2013 15:51:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:51:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 19 16:51:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vina9-000114-Pv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:51:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vina9-0006tu-EO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:51:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44049) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vina0-0006te-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VinZu-0001iF-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:51:08 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp209.alice.it ([82.57.200.105]:37025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VinZu-0001hq-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (79.50.64.88) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 52443BB00C7E25B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:50:51 +0100 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VindO-0006Gk-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:54:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Allen S. Rout's message of "Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:35:48 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165388 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () "Allen S. Rout" () Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:35:48 -0500 > if [...] "Emacs as word processor interaction pane" [...], we can > postulate some specific features: If we were to imagine that these features exist, I suggest that the resulting Emacs environment would not be significantly more accesible to the random MS Word operator than is the current environment. In fact, I think we'd push it into the Uncanny Valley; increasing frustration because, having made the surface look somewhat like they expect, we have left the bones in the "alien" configuration they don't understand. In basic Emacs, at least they know they're not in Kansas. Well, i'm no UI or HCI maven, so i can't really speak to these issues. Recalling back to when i was introduced to Emacs, the most compelling non-programming-that-really-is-a-degenerate-form-of-programming feature was keyboard macros. I don't know if that transfers cleanly into a word processor context, though. I imagine a more appreciated feature would be "intelligent search and replace". RMS: You said you wished for Emacs features using LibreOffice. What kind of document were you editing? Which features did you miss? How did you work around their lack? (Please be specific.) =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlKLibcACgkQZwMiJEyAdQK3+ACeMmcdgc5LZ+Eh6+m2B3z/mM2L leMAoIT9jfeHkIV04Vn02CCNSXNFNMsl =rDIz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--