From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:01:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87iovf640c.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <2013-11-22T16-27-58@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83k3g0cnby.fsf@gnu.org> <2013-11-24T11-44-42@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83zjotbv29.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385449289 21591 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 07:01:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: news1142@Karl-Voit.at, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 08:01:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlCeL-0006Ps-VF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:01:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlCeL-0008BR-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:01:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlCeD-00083H-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlCe7-0007JY-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:01:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]:41921) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlCe1-0007Ie-Ta; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:01:14 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id ez12so4708750wid.13 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:01:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=nFn+vALMQwiQqQCiAHjp0kFdtUAZLAyXpRtxoU0Wxz8=; b=zKXhTZmZlHlA6oY8x6auRxWjS30IxOLhW7hKMX8kEil37yXS1Q7WtsY0tGLMP68SLS uUhdmJKI7i6SQbSEZ5+CrDk3URP1lbHimhJHx0PVezpmK3QNUip7E/3NiQp0URe7+Av7 0fP0zeKoHUkPUunxuYpXFdWlbKqPTbevSJBLlUakzlxavRbspUbz3GLZp9kt16NKtgtW V3yZ83eqhii/TUN0Tzc8iIqQAlKkbeL/9cERn1psZzUOehGEljR3mEpbYF9aRlTRNywL gZP1ixDBNPsvIZzhBaOtO5OlkUBbQIElM9FyFELMv9BeEEXhtDWx4VOln0oDHvJcHDjt pUAQ== X-Received: by 10.194.241.228 with SMTP id wl4mr25583067wjc.2.1385449272382; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:01:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id je17sm57172368wic.4.2013.11.25.23.01.09 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:01:11 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6EFED1C2087E; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:01:07 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:24:51 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165743 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I hope that my suggestion will get people interested in doing this. I hope that my suggestion to test Org will somehow not be burried with this huge thread :) Looking forward to reading your feedback, independently of the WYSIWYG discussion ! -- Bastien