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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Facts for fans: encodings history (was: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:19:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ioo4ukyq.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87sin8use8.fsf@debian.uxu

Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:

>> Yuri Khan writes:
>>
>> You could order a book in an Internet shop, have
>> them completely b0rk up the encoding of the shipping
>> address:
>>
>> http://cdn.imagepush.to/in/625x2090/i/3/30/301/24.jpg
>>
>> Then somebody at the postal system might decode the
>> characters and the package would still be delivered
>> at the intended address.
>
> Ha-ha, unbelievable! How did that happen? First you
> wrote in Russian at the Internet shop's web page -
> then it got like that because of them translating
> Unicode (?) to ISO-8859-1 (which is 8-bit, with the
> ASCII as its lower half) - ? Why didn't the Internet
> shop do it?  Did they actually think that was a
> language or some transcription of Russian? How was it
> translated to Russian at the postal office? I can
> only make out the first line: Russia, Moscow.

I read an article on this:

Pre-1990s: the 7-bit period. US-ASCII, with ISO 646 in
Scandinavia and Finland (with 0x5B-D and 0x7B-D
replaced with national chars: those were [ \ ]
and { | } respectively in the US-ASCII).

The 90s: 8-bits. ISO 8859-1 with the ASCII as its lower
half. Russian: KOI8-R, ISO 8859-5, and CP1251.

2000s: the multi-byte era. EUC and ISO 2022-JP for
CJK. Linux moves from 8859 to UTF-8, an
ASCII-compatible implementation of the likely future
standard Unicode/ISO 10646.

-- 
underground experts united:
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-14  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3187.1402155569.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11  0:04 ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11  5:23   ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3375.1402464243.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 14:24     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11 15:03       ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3418.1402499010.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 15:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11 16:57           ` Teemu Likonen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3437.1402505846.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 21:32             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-12  5:43           ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-12 12:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-12 13:36               ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-12 14:48                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3496.1402580195.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14  1:49                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  5:45                   ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-17  1:09                     ` Keyboard layout purpose (was: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes) Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3627.1402724759.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:14                     ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14 14:51                       ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-14 15:26                         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-17  1:42                         ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.3651.1402757512.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 16:13                         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-16 15:35                           ` Joost Kremers
2014-06-17  2:21                           ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.3799.1402971688.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17  2:41                             ` Rusi
2014-06-17  3:05                               ` Rusi
2014-06-17  1:46                       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-15  2:48                     ` Sergio Pokrovskij
2014-06-17  1:30                       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-12 16:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3473.1402551809.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14  1:35             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  2:38             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  5:19               ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2014-06-14  7:37                 ` Facts for fans: encodings history (was: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes) Yuri Khan
2014-06-14  8:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-14 10:46                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3631.1402731427.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:21                   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  7:11               ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Yuri Khan
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3630.1402729917.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:20                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-17  2:12 ` Rusi
2014-06-17  2:33   ` Garreau, Alexandre

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