From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mario Lang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [elpa] chess.el: Req. for comment/review: Info manual Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:20:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87iony6n3x.fsf@fx.delysid.org> References: <874mzqszid.fsf@fx.delysid.org> <83vbrytft7.fsf@gnu.org> <87r42m6pwh.fsf@fx.delysid.org> <83ha3it67o.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403119270 10145 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2014 19:21:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:21:10 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 18 21:21:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WxLPq-0005o3-PG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:21:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60250 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WxLPq-0007KC-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60415) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WxLPh-0007Dl-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WxLPV-0006vJ-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:20:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fep19.mx.upcmail.net ([62.179.121.39]:58748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WxLPU-0006uh-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viefep19-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20140618192039.SCQF12994.viefep19-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:20:39 +0200 Original-Received: from fx.delysid.org ([80.109.200.215]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id FvLa1o01B4fLMH403vLacx; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:20:37 +0200 X-SourceIP: 80.109.200.215 Original-Received: from mlang by fx.delysid.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WxLPO-00078l-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:20:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:58:53 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 62.179.121.39 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172520 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Why did I need to read the Lisp source to figure out how to checkout >> a single package from externals? > > I wouldn't know. I made it as simple as I could, because I don't have > much time to devote to it and nobody else seemed interested in spending > time on it, whereas I think GNU ELPA is very important for Emacs. I am actually rather motivated to work on ELPA, but I am too green to do any infrastructure changes just yet. THat said, what might be confusing is the "externals/" prefix, since it suggests that the package is really externally maintained. As it stands, we seem to use separate branches for packages to keep history apart, which is a valid enough reason with big packages methinks. We *could* clear up that confusion by using another branch prefix, like "packages/" to indicate that these are really packages native to the ELPA r= epo. I also find the instructions to generate archives locally which include externals a bit too verbose. I'd rather prefer to have a make target that does all the work, so that it becomes more easy to test-build a package living in a separate branch locally. --=20 CYa, =E2=A1=8D=E2=A0=81=E2=A0=97=E2=A0=8A=E2=A0=95