From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how to add button to emacs that play a elisp code
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 01:42:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ioktn2qp.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87vbotx3ht.fsf@debian.uxu
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>>>> Please please prettty please don't quote your
>>>> lambdas!
>>>
>>> ?????
>>
>> Write it:
>>
>> (global-set-key [(super meta i)] (lambda ()
>> (interactive) (ispell-change-dictionary "italian")))
>
> It is probably easier to remember if you exilian why.
>
> With the quote, it is a list, with the first element
> lambda, the second element an empty list, and so on.
>
> '(1 2 3) ; the list (1 2 3)
> (list 1 2 3) ; the same
No, not the same!
(defun f () '(1 2 3))
(defun g () (list 1 2 3))
(eq (f) (f)) --> t
(eq (g) (g)) --> nil
list always return a new list or nil.
quote always return the very same object it has in argument.
It's not the same at all!
> By the way, I thought I would make it even more
> pedagogical with `functionp' and `listp', but:
>
> (functionp '(lambda () (interactive) 1)) ; t
> (listp (lambda () (interactive) 1)) ; t
This is wrong also.
(defun h ()
(list (functionp '(lambda () (interactive) 1))
(listp (lambda () (interactive) 1))))
(h) --> (t t)
(byte-compile 'h)
(h) --> (t nil)
It just happens that for the emacs lisp interpreter, a lambda expression
is a function, and therefore in emacs lisp, lambda is a macro that
returns a lambda expression and it works. But once compiled it doesn't
work anymore.
And personnaly, I'd promote a more common lisp, therefore I would avoid
using those specific particularities, since in other Common Lisp
implementations, functions are entirely distinct from lists.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
“The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a
dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-11 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-11 7:44 how to add button to emacs that play a elisp code Renato Pontefice
2014-09-11 8:08 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2014-09-11 8:40 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2014-09-11 12:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-11 12:22 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2014-09-11 12:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-11 12:46 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
[not found] ` <mailman.8685.1410439222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-11 21:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-11 23:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2014-09-12 0:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-12 0:23 ` Michael Heerdegen
[not found] ` <mailman.8717.1410481417.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-12 0:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-12 1:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-09-12 14:52 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.8719.1410484774.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-12 2:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-12 7:44 ` Renato Pontefice
2014-09-12 10:15 ` Renato Pontefice
2014-09-12 19:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-13 21:28 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-09-14 2:30 ` Rusi
2014-09-14 4:18 ` Rusi
2014-09-14 18:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-14 18:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-15 5:48 ` Alex Kost
[not found] ` <mailman.8874.1410760111.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-15 22:45 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-16 4:55 ` Alex Kost
[not found] ` <mailman.8956.1410843332.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-16 22:27 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.8671.1410424828.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-11 21:06 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.8670.1410422963.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-11 8:24 ` Renato Pontefice
2014-09-11 16:00 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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