From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Metaproblem, part 3 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:38:37 +0800 Message-ID: <87ioho6xya.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <87ppbzplcw.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83iohr48kr.fsf@gnu.org> <83388u4bps.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsejkrt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tx19jpqz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k3255ggb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r3wckgjf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417916014 22376 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2014 01:33:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 01:33:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 07 02:33:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxQj0-0003fh-Qo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 02:33:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxQj0-0007qu-EI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:33:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxQiq-0007qj-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:33:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxQik-0003iZ-9U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:33:16 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59088) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxQik-0003gs-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:33:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxQig-0003Ww-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 02:33:06 +0100 Original-Received: from 61.149.185.27 ([61.149.185.27]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 02:33:06 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 61.149.185.27 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 02:33:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.149.185.27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OGbYfoz38YHf1e6FPFCqvmUPXn0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179227 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > > > The only reason I chimed in > > I need to get my finger off the "F" key. I should have replied to > somebody else, as you definitely did not claim hostility on anybody's > part. My apologies. No worries! > > is because I'm one of those who would love to contribute more > > substantially, but needs guidance. For example, I've got the basics > > of an epub-editing mode in place. I'd like it to be a solid > > library, and would likely need assistance to get it there. > > Sure, and you'll find plenty of willing assistance once you figure out > how to ask for it. Or you could just submit your code. :-) The people > you see posting here day-in-and-day-out will help you and *not* drop > the ball when they get bored. Some more than others, of course, and > more at some times than others. > > > What's in it for the mentors and core developers is that, a few years > > from now, I'd like to be making larger contributions to the Emacs core. > > Mentoring would help me get there. > > Sure. My experience is that that works best with somebody who is, as > you are, already somewhat committed to the project. But as a couple > people pointed out, mentoring anybody who comes in is not a profitable > strategy for adding core contributors I definitely agree with this part.