From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:03:43 +0200 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: <87ioanuag0.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87mw01uj06.fsf@gmail.com> <877fr5t282.fsf@gnu.org> <557F2ECC.40201@cs.ucla.edu> <87pp4wjh51.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434456259 5898 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2015 12:04:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:04:19 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 14:04:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4pb8-0000GT-6h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:04:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4pb7-0007I9-Hh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4pb1-0007I4-VM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4paw-00076n-8k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56623) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4paw-000761-28 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:03:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4pas-0008U5-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:03:54 +0200 Original-Received: from 213.30.189.66 ([213.30.189.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:03:54 +0200 Original-Received: from rpluim by 213.30.189.66 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:03:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.30.189.66 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pEH+OaXFHjPs0Cy4WapKA2GLGIo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187208 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > > What does "Alt key works" mean? Alt is Meta here, so typing Alt-AltGr-( > says M-[ is undefined. I think what Paul means is that Alt should send Alt. I have my left-Alt configured as Meta, but my right-Alt configured as Alt, so I can type single and double quotes without all the C-x 8 RET malarkey. In xmodmap syntax: clear mod1 clear mod3 keycode 133 = Meta_L keycode 108 = Alt_R add mod1 = Meta_L add mod3 = Alt_R Robert