From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:27:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87io0en9pr.fsf@gmx.de> References: <871t7d4ion.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj3eks.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj4jvp.fsf@gmx.de> <871t7650th.fsf@gmx.de> <87io0i32sq.fsf@gmx.de> <871t752nme.fsf@gmx.de> <87bn69uouo.fsf@gmx.de> <764322aa-50ea-96b4-7c2a-36fbd60b2b54@yandex.ru> <8760wgvql0.fsf@gmx.de> <87r3f4ub0o.fsf@gmx.de> <87fuvjomow.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458638908 29108 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2016 09:28:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23006@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 22 10:28:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aiIbj-00029f-Ts for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2016 09:27:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57696 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiIbT-0001W0-8k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:52394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiIbR-0001Vo-Gw for 23006@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:27:53 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.58.73]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLelb-1aiZqj1WMt-000qhe; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:27:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:26:15 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:SBOXEnJw4ofbBvYD8x4mQ4AwUeLXku1IznxfHvEvs1zLfwFevE5 sWPT/WmNrWRt4LwtNy5SgB3AGPMOCGRFzikHvjUP6fSLz3n0gYeZ7YY0Ct1ta+o9Yw/V5HO RTODN+Lj1xay+0hITZ2l5kQ0xPsouYj0KMzbYyhqW9VKsn9X8HzBmoZ6cLHqzVp/lsUFMx/ 57OP/UIhlEdzSQR7dX3UQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Pu7tMVOJOig=:Gxqr+/8zGSP/3zLZfmOuPT UHcwPzDoKL7Hl93WwhmbSMFQaAhODjWtmdeVU4683v5ijoqimYXI8NlrH/Xyaolz06/C0Niin E+QTmBR9jjWwr+pUPS6sToqpM8X0xNffYf60M/RPRMTCJgsgLVcyzfP2khjrRNfKqRjogDGkA dJlbS3nWvTrBBPvMOrw4QAWYg93iUabEO0Xt/3liQ3XbxHSjZu2vnCtxtgfuqGa1YSHpo64kS wkkjliDdLv7hZPNNf/Vu/7KCGdsqFhGQCu4JAn7vEbaVM/+BvzKPb1Uo/NHv15FPxMHOa+tI8 ZNhV4zjXT/Xy4XVBV4mOD+/Ldulme9/ruXcIOm5VEHrxKm7weWjlY9gUHwkJPYFhyJfxs6svm v0sYPKvqanHpvY/Lx1mqkZdYPPWYQKP0L0+0v5YQBRDxWXgFdLWTDWnkFBhJwcD4Rt4jFIGPS aczSrRepFp3sj5XYkAuxG0Y/Kfthcf2XbGHIY/FiMpHLDmph2NMkoixpmrELeoBtw2k9b9BnH 0ZQ+dBEV0w3vuEK3AWpKp9rZsamPS0TKkLn50z9UEiQtxi1wlT2cMcLZkWj9AfQVFwlZ7xO3M fu5ilZRKHo5vMxcTvdmBQBI5pODsy7y9CyoI42a7NfQreG4ux61w743Ex/eRWe/kaJauhOvIi zEA4AmWoSYyda+bVkxfiCWnSVBPT4Qs8gnCbaanWTtN1X3jJeRXNshkFgza0R32XcCvwboCY9 TxkE+eF7yvvNeB20vDQzP5G8pleBStp8pBSJ14CwmPh0oDf6Fy9G8hBXGHrLVcMWyS4ZMKQp X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115297 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Indeed, the issue is "don't interfere with the main operation", so >>> prompting is a clear no-no. Opening a new connection might be >>> acceptable (as long as it doesn't block Emacs for too long, for >>> example). >> Again, Tramp has no chance to determine this in advance. Whether new >> credentials are required interactively, or not, is decided only after >> Tramp has started to open a new connection. > > That's OK. I'm only talking about the intended meaning of > non-essential, independently of any particular use such as in Tramp. > If there's a risk of problems and non-essential is non-nil, then don't > open a new connection. If there's always such a risk, then never open > a new connection (when non-essential is non-nil). Unless we are running into the scenario given by Dmitry ... > Stefan Best regards, Michael.