From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [emacs-announce] Emacs pretest 25.0.93 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:55:06 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <87inz8nu39.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87r3dxbln9.fsf@petton.fr> <87bn50pn65.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834mas5y4i.fsf@gnu.org> <877ffopkzt.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8737qcpklh.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8337qc5w01.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb38o3ll.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83zisk4erk.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb38jqs8.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461430555 12445 80.91.229.3 (23 Apr 2016 16:55:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 16:55:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 23 18:55:46 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1au0qM-0008Tg-7N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:55:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52987 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au0qL-0007p4-KL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34955) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au0py-0007n3-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:55:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au0pu-0006Bq-TX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:55:18 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au0pu-0006Bk-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:55:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1au0pt-0008AK-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:55:13 +0200 Original-Received: from p54b46f42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.180.111.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:55:13 +0200 Original-Received: from Stromeko by p54b46f42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:55:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b46f42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7meOHYA1lni2AFB48zccwfQowgI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-Topics: emacs-announce X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203215 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > FWIW, I once saw this while calling "make" for Helm. I investigated and > saw such a "t" timestamp in the loaddefs file. I didn't think long > about it. I just deleted that loaddefs file - after that, "make" > succeeded, and instead of "t" there was a "real" time stamp. Just like you, the removal of the existing autoload files made the build succeed again. The reason for why there was no proper timestamp on these entries was that during my last build on 3rd of April I built also an EMacs from master and that build destroys trhe time-stamps that emacs-25 so desperately needs. Really, if there's something wrong with a file the build can re-create, it should not error out. Plus, there really needs to be some Makefile target to really clean up (no, 'make distclean' didn't do it). Plus, the fact that the lisp directory is shared between different builds and doesn't contain just the sources doesn't really help, either. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves