From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Are there non-mingw32 binaries for Windows? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209531 Archived-At: Richard Copley writes: > On 20 November 2016 at 21:24, Phillip Lord wrote: >> Richard Copley writes: >>> Without wishing to confuse matters, there /is/ an Emacs that's >>> "native to MSYS" and uses MSYS-style mounts, but it's a different >>> beast. The MSYS package repository has three builds: >>> >>> mingw32/mingw-w64-i686-emacs 25.1-1 >>> mingw64/mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs 25.1-1 >>> msys/emacs 25.1-1 >>> >>> The first two are native (to Windows) and are hardly patched from >>> upstream. They're very similar to the official FSF builds for Windows. >>> The third is "native to MSYS". Most people don't need it but it can >>> come in handy if you spend time in MSYS. >> >> >> I think for 25.2 I should change the name of the zip files on >> ftp.gnu.org. The "mingw-w64" addition is not really necessary and might >> well cause confusion. > > OK, but to clarify, the three names I quoted above are the package > names on MSYS2, and all the packages there are prefixed in the same > way. But that's according to some schema that's operative for them -- > no reason to cargo-cult it into Emacs. Sure, I understand that. I'm not sure where I got it from. Probably, approximately the same place. > But is it worth looking into whether there's a more-or-less > established convention that could be said to apply to the binaries > available on ftp.gnu.org? It would be, and I shall. Phil