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From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: 27674@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#27674: 26.0.50; cl-progv: strange scoping due to implementation
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:54:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87inixdru5.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zic9dtti.fsf@drachen> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2017 03:11:37 +0200")

Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:

> Eh - no.  Maybe I have a wrong mental model.  I thought that the free
> variable `x' in the lambda is (also) in the scope of the dynamical
> binding created by `progv', and because that binding is established
> inside the `let' establishing the lexical binding of `x', it would
> shadow the lexical binding.

Oh, you want lexical and dynamic binding on the same variable?  I think
the answer is "don't do that".

> Why does the lambda still refer to the lexical binding?

Maybe it would be more obvious if we wrote it like this:

    (let ((x 0))
      (cl-progv (list (intern (read-string "Enter var: "))) (list 1)
        (funcall (lambda () x))))

Clearly the inner x must refer to the lexical let-binding, right?  Even
if the user happens to enter `x' at the prompt this remains true.

> Does a lexical binding always beat a dynamical one?

Yes, lexical analysis is performed first and then the names are thrown
away, so you can't even tell when the "same" variable has been
dynamically bound as well.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-13  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 21:53 bug#27674: 26.0.50; cl-progv: strange scoping due to implementation Michael Heerdegen
2017-07-13  0:21 ` npostavs
2017-07-13  0:36   ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-07-13  0:50     ` npostavs
2017-07-13  1:11       ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-07-13  1:54         ` npostavs [this message]
2017-07-13  2:15           ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-07-13  2:41             ` npostavs
2017-07-13 14:40               ` Roland Winkler
2017-07-13 15:07                 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-07-14 14:20                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-07-15 20:46                     ` Roland Winkler
2017-07-14 16:00               ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-07-19 13:55             ` Stefan Monnier

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