From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1518615149 5738 195.159.176.226 (14 Feb 2018 13:32:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:32:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 14 14:32:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1elxAR-0000W3-Qm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GWfT7NRW5/VsB6z7G6zFJjOIys9W+NmwMkQD5TKHquKjuINkOWU vQ9JueQ2P2Ieut2muuu75dV4dVaOzejDq0xkppdOtGYBhwlroEFhF1nOEbimXi/LyKafKjh OCIEgnjyM53GXZvk/WcIf7bKoZW0xxUS/8Eu8tfuDzxWPthiA4lqzRLFfpDDVWANzMqA6+q neYJw37NW5wCiyhBLY6Bg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:xdcB+7+1GP8=:wf9CTQGDBeejnZm0Ra0ecL GMUBs/dLeW6oTBRkFgAkogTyyVHYorP11XeJn0fUVkWaI6gTYyRCk92dEBZqIDBRPCb8AgFCt 0FaL0L5CbwhQqbkHTTSC+MoSoS/9fOkn4Iggez0k7BH19yJzztoxWX62NVCqylKA42jZ3id+v 5W7CKLuRguNwdhaFbGqg+742LJwMigg3p45bQnkLIlt3sFIH+/6hIDmZMVFOI1APwq0m+PaBf PhNUljZeQNUsY5Bi4KNHWHF4NZqGI6C6PowKrq5iWXWYkgysWxDWiaXc5dC/80M4iwGk3W8Ta 2m+DIrD6l0urVhzI/RyuVbPyVURAbQ2sLDZyDJQDBxwGK75gp+J3jKYoaQ3SZBt7TdblrTwpw b08wjBhhhahoTIUjDM0avF/C80Dwo/cAU89gHRi6obERRgHcPqicfTsOT3IRMGQiA8mpI7ar8 zEt5/ZznPOf2SiZKF2u13syBPAA4vbMy9s4iG3boVeYSka19LO4uuhhaBN0OaoxC/dQ71jz2J siWZvb+W/CWevLq08KSlfB9T6NN7hwn3H0L1/I6++5ValPM7RWHa0Fp0Xuy6E51gSBlx4zLh5 ZsGw8csrEKza1pBuulnHxbeGCVa0oOYHxw+RNwrE+g7MWktv298ZQ5xHa9j3btx/NJvOoW6Oy P+vcOG3AKZxNDP0FbnxRK/jayJp0QutpXukPY7EB83L7jRN6dl+u43ScdT7GVbTiRsrOgyVmP pABABU5KtmW5aar+j+3rL3F0WCpcCwObuRBdA8neNfjlFWM1SxAHkLR4kcwffbuz0AvKEmP9 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:143271 Archived-At: On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500 Noam Postavsky wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >> The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the >> default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only >> when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, >> ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs >> ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no >> ! effect. >> @end table > > If it's only effective on a tty display, then is the scroll bar > reference irrelevant? AFAIK, there are never scroll bars on a tty > display anyway. I think that's right, so the above is misleading (with or without the change). I guess it's sufficient just to say "On graphical terminals, this has no effect."[1] But maybe it would be helpful to say why it has no effect (even though you see it when you use a graphical display): diff --git a/doc/lispref/display.texi b/doc/lispref/display.texi index fbf943a08c..81084d7c06 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/display.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/display.texi @@ -6988,9 +6988,10 @@ Display Tables @item 5 The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the -default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only -when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, -a scroll bar separates the two windows. +default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. On graphical +terminals, this has no effect: if scroll bars are in use, a scroll bar +separates the two windows, and if scroll bars are not in use, the +border is a thin unbroken line. @end table For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics Steve Berman Footnotes: [1] At least not on GTK+ builds. Someone should check other toolkits and non-toolkit builds (I currently can't readily do that), though it seems unlikely they would differ on this.