From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 11:30:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87in5vwdnz.fsf@gmx.net> References: <20180704034541.GB16344@sfu.ca> <11717.1530681181@alto> <20180704074922.GA25658@sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530696609 31705 195.159.176.226 (4 Jul 2018 09:30:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 09:30:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 32002@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky , Mike Kupfer To: Andrew Kurn Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 04 11:30:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fae6u-00088U-EV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 04 Jul 2018 11:30:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20180704074922.GA25658@sfu.ca> (Andrew Kurn's message of "Wed, 4 Jul 2018 00:49:22 -0700") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:yAV8FFMF6aeZ4LeeXEyo6pRwwnaq6jVuaeYJcArx3uBy7WzpWL1 /3idvekffurHIAqZLfvsnZ3rsbvJFbkHauV63K2s7fLMVVfHgFHz5r9TSyUgGGAFXmtissl UStjGaBxaU+zBEL9e1fTLhO3T3mJ8TOJRbpFIbp0vh1twzNJm4qWWd+w293C3f4UCWZ4Gdz jGiyIr9ezqEpDBy9muh3A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zIFYcgKNfhI=:2N7M2iqOTY4UzaxsLI7Qn2 d92fk4r1qdCZzI7Bga4ZufYTt4qFzhmUcq3pp5omW1bYzidt+8YhRxEvWgZ/RlBIf5x4FUVGM VgtQGxQreUjCNe8mYQ+THd2x22kzv6r1UjRiT3OcwP9Za0DMRN1/D7rbRoWnPswNy/uET+mIO SlUU5FXOFehHmgd/un1iRHsXnqAozra3jBNr/EXQUZPQDUiF8ajWT/nqDuFmUrArBqji7bq7a ommokci3gdXegeU5Jc/2KGjW/36kEK+bHzE8mdckEDRzNDiLd4DsbCGeuuxZ0Z//uakUTwNWt /wLuwA91zX3s11uFu/cQUnrLNvPmb6vZTe4N9Y1vjYBF6/ZSdcbNFQo1oD+VsGQc0rYO6LIzx JS3rDSZ8J9kjVgvdoIIgHiYCr45+uw15BkZfdOHhq/VveHk2VllxINqrq20dm+Vh7TzRYUxI9 8lQ8p0FM4yS/Z9gl0K0KRfhLAMvSfnUh4AioUwqxBYBgg0pBJweSdFt794uUy0OuWzvMXg8FV FbNXM51VJDCpZ/PKAVwECXIeIDyUDw11CeT7NFMUeFnVqI67WFdnDj2pClv8Gs2ew5m02L2ig uU4dXXSRLB5md/sE7BeHg/pb3CFXospjnmDfZ+4+yR86Sh/ATRjdAnxUHh3jRBkPYRKwwc236 W5aj8V6cczUTmN6hfY0bXWa04mQLffJ4T6WcnBhq9mC/T4tILsY7fBIyJ3tp1OK3IvkA8LHQL 4S4kZeL4JTfJ4RYHJ3M/RmjoDJIwNwXBv0yeuvgLt8IkSipO1vLzgz7CXyQ6BoK8P6+Ms0vu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148176 Archived-At: On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 00:49:22 -0700 Andrew Kurn wrote: > Eli wrote: > >> I think we support both those who share this opinion and >> those who don't. It sounds like you want to set >> scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion to nil. > > Yes!! This is the answer I've been looking for, how to > disable the feature. > > Many thanks. > > . . . and have you got any idea why the author used 'thumb' > in the name?=20=20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll_bar: Although scrollbar designs differ throughout their history, they usually appear on one or two sides of the viewing area as long rectangular areas containing a bar (or thumb) that can be dragged along a trough (or track) to move the body of the document. [...] The =E2=80=9Cthumb=E2=80= =9D has different names in different environments: on the Mac OS X 10.4 it is called a "scroller";[3] on the Java platform it is called "thumb" or "knob"; Microsoft's .NET documentation refers to it as "scroll box" or "scroll thumb"; in other environments it is called "elevator", "quint", "puck", "wiper" or "grip". > I suppose who the author is is lost in the > mists of time. Not with the Emacs VC fog lamp! commit ec782c5f13fbcebe3b02106357c7daa0681a2b08 Author: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv Date: Fri Jan 11 05:57:45 2013 +0100 Introduce scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion. =20=20=20=20 * xterm.c (scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion): New variable to determine whether scroll bar thumb size should be adjusted or not. Use variable for MOTIF. =20=20=20=20 * gtkutil.c (scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion): Use variable for GTK. Steve Berman