From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: User interaction from multiple threads Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 12:30:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87in4b6hwf.fsf@gmx.de> References: <838t59j821.fsf@gnu.org> <5B73DF10.5070200@gmx.at> <87muto5998.fsf@gmx.de> <5B73ED7E.5000102@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1534328986 26194 195.159.176.226 (15 Aug 2018 10:29:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 10:29:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 15 12:29:42 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fpt3c-0006fH-7f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 12:29:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48474 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpt5i-000373-Li for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:31:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpt51-000319-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:31:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpt4y-0000xA-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:48617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpt4x-0000w1-Uh; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([79.140.117.178]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mbx62-1fXoUp3ceM-00JGI2; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 12:30:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5B73ED7E.5000102@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:08:14 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:a+39SARDYo6ETyHGmGgPyhTOyvMuBTX+CbJu5f6aiSW2ISilky/ fhUtJJ18bYIZOYp5LJcQx6lZ8zd0ITBjoY5ZGuGvJQ8f9QPft1W/CGavy1N0OMuHuYIDnFM eEfyRO8xel5Qj64XVHGF2zf9a2veVkXaCTu4W6QO1Fd2kcd+zjRMga4Qs/iy0Do1hGyKGhO n4ibj4cM5todELAcfrBcw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:fF6TCYIhVco=:JFXH2ZDcVNWvVBJWtpLfd4 Ti9Rf0tAkReWLtaJIEOpg/MkukZf6U1aC563EEM0irU8rwA+gKei0T7W+CqgF3EGy90Uf4lhn 8tpOBsXBraGT+7fGVJNJju25QAy5n3XGCMt1d4mvDiMu6zPB/KevsFg5Yw1IRQP4QkDBJ+Qlv vNyByWL3kOJVTXEbtpR2QquN0JhpgvOpT+BkzoLJAe6hCORA+boJ6GWF43hYYr6luyxl9kBoe 8s1Yi+5BCuPUk3KwV/ZwZqnftSbJx03Nl6U7XvoyI9gyziJ18eNuEnOb/cdJai4sZMwzOBCqU tNlc0JLiBIv6M3LEvIedtBkxwO5muYt/0HVSRAcjdf8LoNcTGoafpXKoPdVlis6L2SYORdeAJ 4zxuQI/4AIsplXqbuVQhHd0aQoQGT7OLD/8ypGBHInWowPkM0wbJBngfaK6qkh0Wmtr2IVghW 6s0bRZe5DMuq4fhpR4IuWlYFX2tpqbQlH5nEsCZmJ5pKn2zeSGTaNJYrvNk7kn9Rh6I6m6wgK Eis/sKN2Nic2zhFbfYi4/9oLQ/YQPh+Ig4oVGRHOc1y5+fQsUGhZNX8Q0VJyTv9lEasy9zTht JQEZuK0lgfGJMiCi7vZtu2s/u2XxWDcxEtWA9mow+ZVA6IIV0P6MtocHGRugr22trhXuo+lq/ OYEJ/dJOrnJB5F8JLdkHeeM4/mTdcegMTXtXWLTsri0G7tNT3WOHzFbDfha5qa8prg4stzXk1 JI4oRNJVWBV+mm9Slfrw1kvTXEMhtcVxVivwEy79PHSuxpvuGWldEHXBaorPiL8Mm1RT5hFE X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228553 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >>> If we make a rule that each thread owns a frame with a minibuffer, >> >> I don't believe this is feasible. Imagine you'll call "C-x & C-x C-f >> .../emacs/lisp/*.el". This would load all Lisp files of Emacs in >> parallel, resulting in 250+ frames. >> >> This example sounds strange, but it is one test case in the >> feature/tramp-thread-safe branch I'm running regularly. > > We can make frame creation lazy: Make a frame when the thread wants to > ask a question. As user, I would be surprised if a new frame appears suddenly. > martin Best regards, Michael.