From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:58:34 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87in3d15w5.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus> <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83pnxx1foj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1o1a06q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <877ek1ql6u.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <19f783eb-a688-2a69-e209-ea161177c8cb@cs.ucla.edu> <83pnxsy8dp.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhww9xxk.fsf@phil.uni-goettingen.de> <83in3kx8ug.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvmyh1ub.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83k1ntq074.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7op7fpz.fsf@toy.adminart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536613746 30792 195.159.176.226 (10 Sep 2018 21:09:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:09:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Joost Kremers , Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 23:09:02 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fzTQb-0007sy-PX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:09:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzTSh-0004YA-TT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:11:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39557) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzTNu-0007uX-KP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzTCS-0001Tb-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:54:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mo6-p01-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([2a01:238:20a:202:5301::2]:29760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzTCR-0001TL-Qr; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:54:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1536612862; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=s7DVx8S2M2gWPAIvmu1JLT09bw/ZRplJJXIw9b3xFs0=; b=Mn0RiSBggiv99xBXOZFLioH03AIf83oTcc2mjz5gpNW8mJSNXzLSERXlfC+QFAClw5 k9Cs02tVrcgHyoyswV3PZvBMcK1UzHUTfEEpY+PznwOv+ZSEVswEZ3ni4IXMNwLdeH+J sS2mrmdsStF0z3uUQioKWnM9fGzqUNVJ3O6Fyl2Pi/84vl5tmrIemQHlN/GimwFFEHzb OQlsIXsIZJ3V1mZVLVFzTgwvew8k7VJMKs8GgqKdMxvNJwfNxUkjUBR+PI44oDZCQ8Ae zueVr2HWQo4BfD3BVGeAzMjsbCK5EfHOUoHNnDdtj4MgIpTrnLo/bbtq5j2qjdBleT19 wfOw== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+AVdIIwXjneEe9k=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Original-Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.0 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e03b99u8AKsJJsX (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fzTCM-0001CB-O0; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:57:15 +0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a01:238:20a:202:5301::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229657 Archived-At: Yuri Khan writes: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 7:08 PM hw wrote: > >> Beginners may never have seen a floppy and only remote files. A 3.5 >> vs. a 5.25" disk might mean nothing to them even when the disks are >> clearly depicted. > > Yes. This is why some GTK icon themes no longer use the floppy disk > for the Save icon. Maybe some icons from those could be used for the toolbar to make it look more modern? > I don=E2=80=99t have a generic solution for character encodings and > end-of-line conventions. Might just keep displaying them as text, but > possibly spelled out in full (cp437, windows-1252, utf-8, instead of > D, *, U) and moved to a less prominent position. > >> What do you use for remote files? > > Nothing yet, as remote editing is not a thing I do in Emacs often. > U+1F5A7 THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS =F0=9F=96=A7 seems fitting, though. I'd like that.