From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35130: 27.0.50; gnus cannot save Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 10:53:12 -0700 Message-ID: <87imv78ctz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87r2aipxgj.fsf@tcd.ie> <87bm1fdn39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="111193"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , 35130@debbugs.gnu.org To: James Cloos Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 21 20:08:43 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGtP-000Snw-4S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 20:08:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGtO-0006jj-1L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 14:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40719) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGrW-0005DN-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 14:06:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGfC-0002Oq-Jz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35486) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGfC-0002Oh-H7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGfC-0002Tg-9T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:54:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35130-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35130.15558692039476 (code B ref 35130); Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2019 17:53:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49030 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGeY-0002Sl-V1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:43524 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIGeX-0002SW-E3 for 35130@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:53:22 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (75-172-115-9.tukw.qwest.net [75.172.115.9]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBA65FA05C; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:53:13 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (James Cloos's message of "Sun, 14 Apr 2019 00:42:55 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:157956 Archived-At: James Cloos writes: >>>>>> "EA" == Eric Abrahamsen writes: > EA> When you have time, would you pull from master and try again? I think > EA> this ought to be fixed now. > > As of commit f9694a713824d402bcba01064ac2f95156bf4161 gnus remains unusable. > > It was OK at first, but after adding the latest new imap group and > trying to sort everything broke. > > It is completely unable to sort. Not by name, level, method, etc. The > results look like they follow a hash order rather than the required > alphabetic order. > > And after "sorting" it cannot save. Would you try this again? I've installed some relevant fixes, including to sorting, and it's behaving stably for me now. > Gnus suffers greatly from inefficiency. If your ideas can make it > faster I am all for them. But it seems the changes need to be backed > out and done in a branch before they are ready for consumption. I think it may be a bit too late for that. It needed more testing, that's for sure, and I apologize for making Gnus unresponsive. But what appears to be fairly catastrophic failure at this point is actually caused by fairly small bugs. The changes were done in a branch; my mistake was in not getting more volunteer road-testers. I won't make that mistake again. Eric