From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20164: 25.0.50; Do not tell users that `x-show-tip' is internal Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:03:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87imrfphpx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <7d0f8249-d653-40f9-8534-9ffe29d689a2@default> <87ftmjrbsy.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83imrffy2i.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="148889"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 20164@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 02 20:30:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htcJm-000cYB-3w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:30:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36840 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htcJl-0000ZH-2I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:30:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58739) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htbvU-0007JH-J4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:05:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htbvQ-00025F-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htbvK-0001zc-2W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htbvJ-0001JN-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20164 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 20164-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20164.15647690424942 (code B ref 20164); Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20164) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2019 18:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htbuM-0001HS-0w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:33396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htbuK-0001HF-9g for 20164@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htbuF-0004e7-MD; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:03:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83imrffy2i.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 02 Aug 2019 17:20:53 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164376 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I agree that the calling conventions for `x-show-tip' seems to be much >> nicer than `tooltip-show'. > > If you do, please explain it to me, because the above arguments don't > convince me, certainly not that x-show-tip's API is "nicer". Maybe > I'm missing something. I think explicit parameters to a function is almost always to be preferred to binding variables and then calling a function that takes no parameters. In this case, you're supposed bind `tooltip-{x,y}-offset' according to the doc string. > No need for guessing; see the short discussion starting at > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2007-03/msg00261.html > > The conclusion to take out of that discussion is that whoever uses > x-show-tip should know very well what they are doing, which is another > way of saying "kids, don't try that at home", a.k.a. "an internal > function". Makes sense to me, and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no