From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 38252@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38252: 27.0.50; Gnus server definitions and generic function specializers
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:18:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imnhan3t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1ru69cc0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:03:00 -0500")
On 11/17/19 21:03 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> I'm ccing you directly because I suspect you're the only one who knows
>> the answers to my questions :)
>
> I doubt it, there's a lot of people around here more familiar with
> CLOS-style programming than I.
>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> gnus-int.el:
>> (cl-defgeneric gnus-request-list (server)
>> "Docs and stuff.")
>>
>> (cl-defmethod gnus-request-list ((server gnus-server-legacy))
>> (funcall (gnus-get-function server 'request-list)
>> (nth 1 server)))
>
> Why not just:
>
> (cl-defmethod gnus-request-list (server)
> (funcall (gnus-get-function server 'request-list)
> (nth 1 server)))
>
> which means "use it as a fallback". The downside is that it will be
> used for non-legacy servers if there is no specific implementation for
> that server, but presumably you can detect it and signal an appropriate
> error somewhere inside gnus-get-function.
>
>> What I'm trying to do is fairly simple: if the argument is a list, and
>> the head of the list is a symbol that can be assoc'd into
>> `nnoo-definition-alist', and the second element is a string, then it's a
>> gnus-legacy-server.
>
> Why not just use a `cons` specializer?
>
> IIUC all the non-legacy servers will use structs, so you don't need to
> use a specializer that's so specific that it has to check "if the
> argument is a list, and the head of the list is a symbol that can be
> assoc'd into `nnoo-definition-alist', and the second element is
> a string".
Okay, perhaps I was overthinking this. I don't want to assume that the
fallback is an old-style server (we might want to use the fallback for
other purposes), but you're right that 'cons is pretty much sufficient.
If anyone feeds a cons value into a Gnus server interface function that
*isn't* a server definition, that falls into "serves you right"
territory.
But just so I don't feel like I wasted my afternoon: how *would* one
write the generalizer I'm talking about?
Thanks,
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-18 3:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-17 22:31 bug#38252: 27.0.50; Gnus server definitions and generic function specializers Eric Abrahamsen
2019-11-18 2:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-18 3:18 ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2019-11-18 4:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-18 20:43 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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