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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244565 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 24 2020, Robert Pluim wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:01:46 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen=20 >>>>>> said: > > Lars> rpluim@gmail.com (Robert Pluim) writes: > >> +if test "${HAVE_CAIRO}" =3D "yes" && test=20 > >> "${HAVE_HARFBUZZ}" =3D no; then > >> + AC_MSG_WARN([This configuration uses Cairo, but not=20 > >> HarfBuzz. We > >> + recommend the use of HarfBuzz when using Cairo,=20 > >> please install > >> + HarfBuzz development packages.]) > >> +fi > > Lars> I would assume that most people casually building=20 > Emacs would have no > Lars> idea what either Cairo or HarfBuzz is. Perhaps it=20 > would be helpful to > Lars> say something like "uses the Cairo graphics library,=20 > but without the > Lars> HarfBuzz font rendering library"? > > 'Casually building Emacs'? Is that possible? :-) > > If they're doing it casually, would explaining Cairo and=20 > HarfBuzz > help? I would consider myself a casual builder of Emacs. :-) On one=20 machine, I compile and install Emacs from source. Not to stay up=20 to date with development but just to have the latest Emacs=20 release. (When I first installed that machine, there were no=20 pre-built packages of a recent Emacs available.) And yes, I think if I'd run into this problem, I'd appreciate the=20 extra information. I mean, of course I would google "Cairo" and=20 "HarfBuzz", but knowing what I'm looking for would make fixing the=20 problem easier. Just my =E2=82=AC0.02. --=20 Joost Kremers Life has its moments