Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Douglas Perrin]

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Hi Michael,
Maybe I am not understanding what you want to do but I use
org-babel-lob-ingest/org-sbe to execute blocks from other files on
start-up like this:
# Local Variables:
# eval: (org-babel-lob-ingest "Template-Loader.org")
# eval: (org-sbe "Init-Template") ;; the name of a block
in Template-Loader.org file
# End:

I assume this means that org-sbe can see the block names from the other
file. But I haven't tested the behavior with #call just executing elisp.
Doug



Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 16:59:32 +0200
From: Michael Welle <mwe012008@gmx.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files
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Hi Eric,

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> * org-babel-lob-ingest
ah, I learned something new here. Unfortunately, it seems like org-sbe
doesn't look into the list spit out by org-babel-lob-ingest.

Regards
hmw

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Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Michael Welle]

Hi Douglas,

Douglas Perrin <doug2024@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Michael,
> Maybe I am not understanding what you want to do but I use
> org-babel-lob-ingest/org-sbe to execute blocks from other files on
> start-up like this:
> # Local Variables:
> # eval: (org-babel-lob-ingest "Template-Loader.org")
> # eval: (org-sbe "Init-Template") ;; the name of a block
> in Template-Loader.org file
> # End:
>
> I assume this means that org-sbe can see the block names from the other
> file. But I haven't tested the behavior with #call just executing elisp.
> Doug
thanks for bringing that up again. Your example works, of course. After
further inspection I think that variables kill my example:

This code block comes from a file I processed with org-babel-lob-ingest.
o-b-l-i returns the correct number of code blocks in that file and org-bab

#+name: boing
#+begin_src elisp :var range=42
(message "Hello, crude world: %s" range)
#+end_src

This comes from the file where I want to use the code block:

|------------------------------------+--------|
| <2020-02-19 Wed>--<2020-02-21 Fri> | #ERROR |
#+TBLFM: $2='(org-sbe "boing" (range 23))

That fails. After removing the variable from the code block and from
org-sbe it works as expected. It works as well if I copy the code block
including the variable into the file with the table. Might be a bug or
my own stupidity?

Regards
hmw

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.]

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:09 AM, Michael Welle <mwe012008@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Douglas,
> 
> Douglas Perrin <doug2024@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> Maybe I am not understanding what you want to do but I use
>> org-babel-lob-ingest/org-sbe to execute blocks from other files on
>> start-up like this:
>> # Local Variables:
>> # eval: (org-babel-lob-ingest "Template-Loader.org")
>> # eval: (org-sbe "Init-Template") ;; the name of a block
>> in Template-Loader.org file
>> # End:
>> 
>> I assume this means that org-sbe can see the block names from the other
>> file. But I haven't tested the behavior with #call just executing elisp.
>> Doug
> thanks for bringing that up again. Your example works, of course. After
> further inspection I think that variables kill my example:
> 
> This code block comes from a file I processed with org-babel-lob-ingest.
> o-b-l-i returns the correct number of code blocks in that file and org-bab
> 
> #+name: boing
> #+begin_src elisp :var range=42
> (message "Hello, crude world: %s" range)
> #+end_src
> 
> This comes from the file where I want to use the code block:
> 
> |------------------------------------+--------|
> | <2020-02-19 Wed>--<2020-02-21 Fri> | #ERROR |
> #+TBLFM: $2='(org-sbe "boing" (range 23))
> 
> That fails. After removing the variable from the code block and from
> org-sbe it works as expected. It works as well if I copy the code block
> including the variable into the file with the table. Might be a bug or
> my own stupidity?
> 


Not stupidity. AFAICS there is no call in org-sbe to org-babel-lob-get-info, so the params are not updated.  I supposed this counts as a bug.

As a workaround

#+TBLFM: $2='(org-babel-ref-resolve "boing(range=23)")

should do.

HTH,

Chuck

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Michael Welle]

Hi Charles,

"Berry, Charles" via "General discussions about Org-mode."
<emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> writes:

>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:09 AM, Michael Welle <mwe012008@gmx.net> wrote:
[...]
> Not stupidity. AFAICS there is no call in org-sbe to
> org-babel-lob-get-info, so the params are not updated. I supposed this
> counts as a bug.
>
> As a workaround
>
> #+TBLFM: $2='(org-babel-ref-resolve "boing(range=23)")
finally I came up with this for my real use case:

#+TBLFM: $2='(org-babel-ref-resolve (format
 "convert-time-range-to-days(range=\"%s\")" $1))

Thanks everyone.

Regards
hmw

org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Michael Welle]

Hello,

I can execute code blocks in different (separate?) files like this:

#+call: ../lob.org:convert-time-range-to-days(range="<2020-02-19
 Wed>--<2020-02-21 Fri>")

That is great. Can I call the same function from a table function?
org-sbe doesn't support the above notation extended with an Org file
name, I think.


Second, I try to concentrate useful reusable code blocks in one file,
lob.org in my case. That works. But I feel that I need some of the elisp
based code blocks as code blocks, that I can execute, as well as
separate elisp forms that I can eval from elisp code. How to deal
with that?

Ideas:

Having two code blocks per function: one with the actual elisp code that
can be tangled and a second one that just evals the form and can be used
as a, well, code block usable with #+call?

Or should I give them names like func and func_code (that's the one with
actual elisp code) and write an elisp form that grabs all code blocks
named *_code and evals them at start-up to bring the forms into the
environment?

Other ideas are also welcome.

Regards
hmw

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Eric S Fraga]

On Tuesday,  7 Jul 2020 at 20:43, Michael Welle wrote:
> That is great. Can I call the same function from a table function?
> org-sbe doesn't support the above notation extended with an Org file
> name, I think.

Does org-sbe work if you have invoked org-babel-log-ingest first?
-- 
: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.3.7-649-gb76ed6

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Eric S Fraga]

* org-babel-lob-ingest
-- 
: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.3.7-649-gb76ed6

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Michael Welle]

Hi Eric,

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> * org-babel-lob-ingest
ah, I learned something new here. Unfortunately, it seems like org-sbe
doesn't look into the list spit out by org-babel-lob-ingest.

Regards
hmw

Re: org-sbe and code blocks in a different files

[Eric S Fraga]

On Wednesday,  8 Jul 2020 at 16:59, Michael Welle wrote:
>> * org-babel-lob-ingest
> ah, I learned something new here. Unfortunately, it seems like org-sbe
> doesn't look into the list spit out by org-babel-lob-ingest.

Pity, and strange in that #+call: works on ingested babel blocks without
having to specify a file name.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.3.7-649-gb76ed6