From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43489: [PATCH] Don't signal scan-error when moving by sexp interactively Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:23:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87imcbds81.fsf@gnus.org> References: <64C7CB3A-36F2-4988-9FF9-B99115C9ED13@acm.org> <87k0wri5xq.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23481"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 43489@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 18 17:31:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJILx-0005zb-PT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJIEB-0007G8-N3; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:23:17 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQAAAAB/ecQqAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAAAJi S0dEAAHdihOkAAAACXBIWXMAAA7DAAAOwwHHb6hkAAAAB3RJTUUH5AkQCyMGR5f7bwAAABBJREFU GNNj+A8GDKMUdSgAT1Qe8M8TmhgAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjAtMDktMTZUMTE6MzU6 MDUrMDA6MDBrguOZAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTA5LTE2VDExOjM1OjA1KzAwOjAw Gt9bJQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Saito Koji's _433-1_: "433_086" In-Reply-To: ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:13:18 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188328 Archived-At: Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > In fact, several of the commands in question don't even beep at the > boundaries in some cases: for example, C-M-f after the last sexp of > the buffer jumps to end-of-buffer and silently stays there. Should we > add noise messages for such cases? Surely not. Yeah, that is pretty inconsistent. > In other words: I'm not strongly against messages instead of dings if > that is the condition for applying the patch, but would like to hear > the benefit of those messages argued positively. Emacs does signal errors a lot more in editing than other editors, it's true -- for instance, `left' at the beginning of the buffer. > There, I'm better now. And here's a hot cuppa, lovely. :-) >> I wonder whether this would have any negative effect when people are >> using these commands in keyboard macros. For instance, if you've >> recorded a macro that does `M-C-f M-DEL' or something, previously it >> would signal an error and then stop, while now it'll just continue and >> delete the wrong thing? > > Actually, (ding) interrupts keyboard macros, so this does work. Ah, I'd forgotten that. Still, I'm not sure whether a (ding) is more helpful than a non-cryptic user-error message in these instances. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no